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From: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <david@redhat.com>,
	<linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] mm/swapfile: make security_vm_enough_memory_mm() work as expected
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 16:20:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfc135d7-6cbc-5491-417b-9a46e2efe5cd@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmj2ea3g.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On 2022/6/21 15:42, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> writes:
> 
>> On 2022/6/21 9:35, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2022/6/20 15:31, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>>> Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> security_vm_enough_memory_mm() checks whether a process has enough memory
>>>>>> to allocate a new virtual mapping. And total_swap_pages is considered as
>>>>>> available memory while swapoff tries to make sure there's enough memory
>>>>>> that can hold the swapped out memory. But total_swap_pages contains the
>>>>>> swap space that is being swapoff. So security_vm_enough_memory_mm() will
>>>>>> success even if there's no memory to hold the swapped out memory because
>>>>>> total_swap_pages always greater than or equal to p->pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Per my understanding, swapoff will not allocate virtual mapping by
>>>>> itself.  But after swapoff, the overcommit limit could be exceeded.
>>>>> security_vm_enough_memory_mm() is used to check that.  For example, in a
>>>>> system with 4GB memory and 8GB swap, and 10GB is in use,
>>>>>
>>>>> CommitLimit:    4+8 = 12GB
>>>>> Committed_AS:   10GB
>>>>>
>>>>> security_vm_enough_memory_mm() in swapoff() will fail because
>>>>> 10+8 = 18 > 12.  This is expected because after swapoff, the overcommit
>>>>> limit will be exceeded.
>>>>>
>>>>> If 3GB is in use,
>>>>>
>>>>> CommitLimit:    4+8 = 12GB
>>>>> Committed_AS:   3GB
>>>>>
>>>>> security_vm_enough_memory_mm() in swapoff() will succeed because
>>>>> 3+8 = 11 < 12.  This is expected because after swapoff, the overcommit
>>>>> limit will not be exceeded.
>>>>
>>>> In OVERCOMMIT_NEVER scene, I think you're right.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, what's the real problem of the original implementation?  Can you
>>>>> show it with an example as above?
>>>>
>>>> In OVERCOMMIT_GUESS scene, in a system with 4GB memory and 8GB swap, and 10GB is in use,
>>>> pages below is 8GB, totalram_pages() + total_swap_pages is 12GB, so swapoff() will succeed
>>>> instead of expected failure because 8 < 12. The overcommit limit is always *ignored* in the
>>>> below case.
>>>>
>>>> 	if (sysctl_overcommit_memory == OVERCOMMIT_GUESS) {
>>>> 		if (pages > totalram_pages() + total_swap_pages)
>>>> 			goto error;
>>>> 		return 0;
>>>> 	}
>>>>
>>>> Or am I miss something?
>>>
>>> Per my understanding, with OVERCOMMIT_GUESS, the number of in-use pages
>>> isn't checked at all.  The only restriction is that the size of the
>>> virtual mapping created should be less than total RAM + total swap
>>
>> Do you mean the only restriction is that the size of the virtual mapping
>> *created every time* should be less than total RAM + total swap pages but
>> *total virtual mapping* is not limited in OVERCOMMIT_GUESS scene? If so,
>> the current behavior should be sane and I will drop this patch.
> 
> Yes.  This is my understanding.

I see. Thank you.

> 
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying
> 
>> Thanks!
>>
>>> pages.  Because swapoff() will not create virtual mapping, so it's
>>> expected that security_vm_enough_memory_mm() in swapoff() always
>>> succeeds.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Huang, Ying
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to fix it, p->pages should be retracted from total_swap_pages
>>>>>> first and then check whether there's enough memory for inuse swap pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>>
> 
> .
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-21  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-08 14:40 [PATCH v2 0/3] A few cleanup and fixup patches for swap Miaohe Lin
2022-06-08 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm/swapfile: make security_vm_enough_memory_mm() work as expected Miaohe Lin
2022-06-17  7:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-18  2:43     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-18  7:10       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-18  7:31         ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20  7:31   ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-20 12:12     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-21  1:35       ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-21  7:37         ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-21  7:42           ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-21  8:20             ` Miaohe Lin [this message]
2022-06-08 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm/swapfile: fix possible data races of inuse_pages Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20  7:54   ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-20  9:04     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20  9:23       ` Muchun Song
2022-06-20 12:23         ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20 12:32           ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20 13:46             ` Qian Cai
2022-06-20 14:20               ` Muchun Song
2022-06-20 21:36                 ` Qian Cai
2022-06-21  1:14                   ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-21  3:39                     ` Muchun Song
2022-06-21  6:40                       ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-08 14:40 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm/swap: remove swap_cache_info statistics Miaohe Lin
2022-06-08 15:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-06-20  8:08   ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-20  9:05     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-06-20  9:30   ` Muchun Song
2022-06-17  2:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] A few cleanup and fixup patches for swap Andrew Morton
2022-06-17  3:00   ` Miaohe Lin

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