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From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: david@redhat.com, hughd@google.com, willy@infradead.org,
	mgorman@suse.de, muchun.song@linux.dev, vbabka@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, zokeefe@google.com,
	rientjes@google.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] synchronously scan and reclaim empty user PTE pages
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 11:31:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bf9f79df-4821-4053-a1e9-f054f2ca5734@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1722861064.git.zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>

Hi all,

On 2024/8/5 20:55, Qi Zheng wrote:

[...]

> 
> 2. When we use mmu_gather to batch flush tlb and free PTE pages, the TLB is not
>     flushed before pmd lock is unlocked. This may result in the following two
>     situations:
> 
>     1) Userland can trigger page fault and fill a huge page, which will cause
>        the existence of small size TLB and huge TLB for the same address.
> 
>     2) Userland can also trigger page fault and fill a PTE page, which will
>        cause the existence of two small size TLBs, but the PTE page they map
>        are different.
> 
>     For case 1), according to Intel's TLB Application note (317080), some CPUs of
>     x86 do not allow it:
> 
>     ```
>     If software modifies the paging structures so that the page size used for a
>     4-KByte range of linear addresses changes, the TLBs may subsequently contain
>     both ordinary and large-page translations for the address range.12 A reference
>     to a linear address in the address range may use either translation. Which of
>     the two translations is used may vary from one execution to another and the
>     choice may be implementation-specific.
> 
>     Software wishing to prevent this uncertainty should not write to a paging-
>     structure entry in a way that would change, for any linear address, both the
>     page size and either the page frame or attributes. It can instead use the
>     following algorithm: first mark the relevant paging-structure entry (e.g.,
>     PDE) not present; then invalidate any translations for the affected linear
>     addresses (see Section 5.2); and then modify the relevant paging-structure
>     entry to mark it present and establish translation(s) for the new page size.
>     ```
> 
>     We can also learn more information from the comments above pmdp_invalidate()
>     in __split_huge_pmd_locked().
> 
>     For case 2), we can see from the comments above ptep_clear_flush() in
>     wp_page_copy() that this situation is also not allowed. Even without
>     this patch series, madvise(MADV_DONTNEED) can also cause this situation:
> 
>             CPU 0                         CPU 1
> 
>     madvise (MADV_DONTNEED)
>     -->  clear pte entry
>          pte_unmap_unlock
>                                        touch and tlb miss
> 				      --> set pte entry
>          mmu_gather flush tlb
> 
>     But strangely, I didn't see any relevant fix code, maybe I missed something,
>     or is this guaranteed by userland?

I'm still quite confused about this, is there anyone who is familiar
with this part?

Thanks,
Qi

> 
>     Anyway, this series defines the following two functions to be implemented by
>     the architecture. If the architecture does not allow the above two situations,
>     then define these two functions to flush the tlb before set_pmd_at().
> 
>     - arch_flush_tlb_before_set_huge_page
>     - arch_flush_tlb_before_set_pte_page
> 

[...]

> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-06  3:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-05 12:55 Qi Zheng
2024-08-05 12:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] mm: pgtable: make pte_offset_map_nolock() return pmdval Qi Zheng
2024-08-05 14:43   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-06  2:40     ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-06 14:16       ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]         ` <f6c05526-5ac9-4597-9e80-099ea22fa0ae@bytedance.com>
2024-08-09 16:54           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-12  6:21             ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-16  8:59               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-16  9:21                 ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-05 12:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] mm: introduce CONFIG_PT_RECLAIM Qi Zheng
2024-08-06 14:25   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-05 12:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] mm: pass address information to pmd_install() Qi Zheng
2024-08-05 12:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] mm: pgtable: try to reclaim empty PTE pages in zap_page_range_single() Qi Zheng
2024-08-06 14:40   ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]     ` <42942b4d-153e-43e2-bfb1-43db49f87e50@bytedance.com>
2024-08-16  9:22       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-16 10:01         ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-16 10:03           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-16 10:07             ` Qi Zheng
2024-08-05 12:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] x86: mm: free page table pages by RCU instead of semi RCU Qi Zheng
2024-08-05 12:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] x86: mm: define arch_flush_tlb_before_set_huge_page Qi Zheng
2024-08-05 12:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] x86: select ARCH_SUPPORTS_PT_RECLAIM if X86_64 Qi Zheng
2024-08-05 13:14 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] synchronously scan and reclaim empty user PTE pages Qi Zheng
2024-08-06  3:31 ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2024-08-16  2:55   ` Qi Zheng

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