From: Chen Wandun <chenwandun@huawei.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH resend] memcg: introduce per-memcg reclaim interface
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 17:48:59 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd926b17-45c2-53bc-3c61-cda3ae442312@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkZHxRY0GEhcRoa8PqLM7pnsu44_U9XKV-9u==iGqwf3=g@mail.gmail.com>
在 2022/4/1 17:20, Yosry Ahmed 写道:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 8:05 PM Chen Wandun <chenwandun@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> 在 2022/3/31 16:41, Yosry Ahmed 写道:
>>> From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
>>>
>>> Introduce an memcg interface to trigger memory reclaim on a memory cgroup.
>>>
>>> Use case: Proactive Reclaim
>>> ---------------------------
>>>
>>> A userspace proactive reclaimer can continuously probe the memcg to
>>> reclaim a small amount of memory. This gives more accurate and
>>> up-to-date workingset estimation as the LRUs are continuously
>>> sorted and can potentially provide more deterministic memory
>>> overcommit behavior. The memory overcommit controller can provide
>>> more proactive response to the changing behavior of the running
>>> applications instead of being reactive.
>>>
>>> A userspace reclaimer's purpose in this case is not a complete replacement
>>> for kswapd or direct reclaim, it is to proactively identify memory savings
>>> opportunities and reclaim some amount of cold pages set by the policy
>>> to free up the memory for more demanding jobs or scheduling new jobs.
>>>
>>> A user space proactive reclaimer is used in Google data centers.
>>> Additionally, Meta's TMO paper recently referenced a very similar
>>> interface used for user space proactive reclaim:
>>> https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3503222.3507731
>>>
>>> Benefits of a user space reclaimer:
>>> -----------------------------------
>>>
>>> 1) More flexible on who should be charged for the cpu of the memory
>>> reclaim. For proactive reclaim, it makes more sense to be centralized.
>>>
>>> 2) More flexible on dedicating the resources (like cpu). The memory
>>> overcommit controller can balance the cost between the cpu usage and
>>> the memory reclaimed.
>>>
>>> 3) Provides a way to the applications to keep their LRUs sorted, so,
>>> under memory pressure better reclaim candidates are selected. This also
>>> gives more accurate and uptodate notion of working set for an
>>> application.
>>>
>>> Why memory.high is not enough?
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> - memory.high can be used to trigger reclaim in a memcg and can
>>> potentially be used for proactive reclaim.
>>> However there is a big downside in using memory.high. It can potentially
>>> introduce high reclaim stalls in the target application as the
>>> allocations from the processes or the threads of the application can hit
>>> the temporary memory.high limit.
>>>
>>> - Userspace proactive reclaimers usually use feedback loops to decide
>>> how much memory to proactively reclaim from a workload. The metrics
>>> used for this are usually either refaults or PSI, and these metrics
>>> will become messy if the application gets throttled by hitting the
>>> high limit.
>>>
>>> - memory.high is a stateful interface, if the userspace proactive
>>> reclaimer crashes for any reason while triggering reclaim it can leave
>>> the application in a bad state.
>>>
>>> - If a workload is rapidly expanding, setting memory.high to proactively
>>> reclaim memory can result in actually reclaiming more memory than
>>> intended.
>>>
>>> The benefits of such interface and shortcomings of existing interface
>>> were further discussed in this RFC thread:
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/5df21376-7dd1-bf81-8414-32a73cea45dd@google.com/
>>>
>>> Interface:
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> Introducing a very simple memcg interface 'echo 10M > memory.reclaim' to
>>> trigger reclaim in the target memory cgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>> Possible Extensions:
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> - This interface can be extended with an additional parameter or flags
>>> to allow specifying one or more types of memory to reclaim from (e.g.
>>> file, anon, ..).
>>>
>>> - The interface can also be extended with a node mask to reclaim from
>>> specific nodes. This has use cases for reclaim-based demotion in memory
>>> tiering systens.
>>>
>>> - A similar per-node interface can also be added to support proactive
>>> reclaim and reclaim-based demotion in systems without memcg.
>>>
>>> For now, let's keep things simple by adding the basic functionality.
>>>
>>> [yosryahmed@google.com: refreshed to current master, updated commit
>>> message based on recent discussions and use cases]
>>> Signed-off-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
>>> ---
>>> Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst | 9 ++++++
>>> mm/memcontrol.c | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> 2 files changed, 46 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
>>> index 69d7a6983f78..925aaabb2247 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
>>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst
>>> @@ -1208,6 +1208,15 @@ PAGE_SIZE multiple when read back.
>>> high limit is used and monitored properly, this limit's
>>> utility is limited to providing the final safety net.
>>>
>>> + memory.reclaim
>>> + A write-only file which exists on non-root cgroups.
>>> +
>>> + This is a simple interface to trigger memory reclaim in the
>>> + target cgroup. Write the number of bytes to reclaim to this
>>> + file and the kernel will try to reclaim that much memory.
>>> + Please note that the kernel can over or under reclaim from
>>> + the target cgroup.
>>> +
>>> memory.oom.group
>>> A read-write single value file which exists on non-root
>>> cgroups. The default value is "0".
>>> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
>>> index 725f76723220..994849fab7df 100644
>>> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
>>> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
>>> @@ -6355,6 +6355,38 @@ static ssize_t memory_oom_group_write(struct kernfs_open_file *of,
>>> return nbytes;
>>> }
>>>
>>> +static ssize_t memory_reclaim(struct kernfs_open_file *of, char *buf,
>>> + size_t nbytes, loff_t off)
>>> +{
>>> + struct mem_cgroup *memcg = mem_cgroup_from_css(of_css(of));
>>> + unsigned int nr_retries = MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES;
>>> + unsigned long nr_to_reclaim, nr_reclaimed = 0;
>>> + int err;
>>> +
>>> + buf = strstrip(buf);
>>> + err = page_counter_memparse(buf, "", &nr_to_reclaim);
>>> + if (err)
>>> + return err;
>>> +
>>> + while (nr_reclaimed < nr_to_reclaim) {
>>> + unsigned long reclaimed;
>>> +
>>> + if (signal_pending(current))
>>> + break;
>>> +
>>> + reclaimed = try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(memcg,
>>> + nr_to_reclaim - nr_reclaimed,
>>> + GFP_KERNEL, true);
>> In some scenario there are lots of page cache, and we only want to
>> reclaim page cache,
>> how about add may_swap option?
> Thanks for taking a look at this!
>
> The first listed extension is an argument/flags to specify the type of
do you mean nbytes in memory_reclaim? it decide the amount of memory
to reclaim.
one more argument such as may_swap can be add into memory_reclaim, and
pass this argument to try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages in order to replace the
default "true"
Thanks.
> memory that we want to reclaim, I think this covers this use case, or
> am I missing something?
>
>>> +
>>> + if (!reclaimed && !nr_retries--)
>>> + break;
>>> +
>>> + nr_reclaimed += reclaimed;
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> + return nbytes;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> static struct cftype memory_files[] = {
>>> {
>>> .name = "current",
>>> @@ -6413,6 +6445,11 @@ static struct cftype memory_files[] = {
>>> .seq_show = memory_oom_group_show,
>>> .write = memory_oom_group_write,
>>> },
>>> + {
>>> + .name = "reclaim",
>>> + .flags = CFTYPE_NOT_ON_ROOT | CFTYPE_NS_DELEGATABLE,
>>> + .write = memory_reclaim,
>>> + },
>>> { } /* terminate */
>>> };
>>>
> .
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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-31 8:41 Yosry Ahmed
2022-03-31 17:25 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-01 6:01 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-01 9:11 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 18:39 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-01 21:13 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-01 21:21 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-01 21:38 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-01 21:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-04 17:14 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-04-04 17:13 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-04 17:55 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-01 9:15 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 15:41 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-04-01 13:49 ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-01 16:58 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-04 8:44 ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-04 18:25 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-03-31 19:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-01 0:33 ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-01 3:38 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-01 9:17 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 13:03 ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-01 3:05 ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-01 9:20 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 9:48 ` Chen Wandun [this message]
2022-04-01 10:02 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 4:05 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-01 9:22 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 15:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-01 20:14 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-01 21:07 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-04 17:08 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-04-05 2:30 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-05 10:09 ` Michal Koutný
2022-04-01 8:39 ` Vaibhav Jain
2022-04-01 9:23 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-04 3:50 ` Vaibhav Jain
2022-04-04 17:18 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 13:54 ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-01 16:56 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-02 8:13 ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-03 6:46 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-03 6:56 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-06 0:48 ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-06 1:07 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-06 2:49 ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-06 5:02 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-06 6:32 ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-06 7:05 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-06 8:49 ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-06 20:16 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-07 7:35 ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-07 21:26 ` Tim Chen
2022-04-07 22:07 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-07 22:12 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-07 23:11 ` Tim Chen
2022-04-08 2:10 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-08 3:08 ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-08 4:10 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-04 17:09 ` Yosry Ahmed
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