From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, baohua@kernel.org,
baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, npache@redhat.com,
ryan.roberts@arm.com, usamaarif642@gmail.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: avoid processing mlocked THPs in deferred split shrinker
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 16:13:22 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bc1182e7-3f70-4645-b8c4-a97898e57041@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5a1429ad-3900-404a-bdca-f25623ce603a@redhat.com>
On 2025/9/8 15:38, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 08.09.25 06:07, Lance Yang wrote:
>> From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
>
> Subject should likely be more specific:
>
> mm: skip mlocked THPs that are underused early in deferred_split_scan()
Right, that's a much better and more precise subject. Thanks!
>
>>
>> When a new THP is faulted in or collapsed, it is unconditionally added to
>> the deferred split queue. If this THP is subsequently mlocked, it remains
>> on the queue but is removed from the LRU and marked unevictable.
>>
>> During memory reclaim, deferred_split_scan() will still pick up this
>> large
>> folio. Because it's not partially mapped, it will proceed to call
>> thp_underused() and then attempt to split_folio() to free all zero-filled
>> subpages.
>>
>> This is a pointless waste of CPU cycles. The folio is mlocked and
>> unevictable, so any attempt to reclaim memory from it via splitting is
>> doomed to fail.
>
> I think the whole description is a bit misleading: we're not reclaiming
> memory from fully-mapped THPs even when they are underused, because it
> could violate mlock() semantics where we don't want a page fault+memory
> allocation on next access.
>
> So something like the following might be clearer.
>
> "When we stumble over a fully-mapped THP in the deferred shrinker, it
> does not make sense trying to detect whether it is underused, because
> try_to_map_unused_to_zeropage(), called while splitting the folio, will
> not actually replace any zero-ed pages by the shared zeropage.
>
> Splitting the folio in that case does not make any sense, so let's not
> even scan if the folio is underused.
> "
Nice, that makes it much clearer. My understanding was indeed imprecise.
>
>
>
> If I run my reproducer from [1] and mlock() the pages just after
> allocating them, then I essentially get
>
> AnonHugePages: 1048576 kB
>
> converted to
>
> Anonymous: 1048580 kB
>
> Which makes sense (no memory optimized out) as discussed above.
Yes, my reproducer also shows exactly that. It's clear a lot of work is
done but no memory is actually optimized out ;)
>
>
> [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20250905141137.3529867-1-david@redhat.com
>
>>
>> So, let's add an early folio_test_mlocked() check to skip this case.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
>> ---
>> mm/huge_memory.c | 3 +++
>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
>> index 77f0c3417973..d2e84015d6b4 100644
>> --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
>> +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
>> @@ -4183,6 +4183,9 @@ static unsigned long deferred_split_scan(struct
>> shrinker *shrink,
>> bool underused = false;
>> if (!folio_test_partially_mapped(folio)) {
>> + /* An mlocked folio is not a candidate for the shrinker. */
>
> /*
> * See try_to_map_unused_to_zeropage(): we cannot optimize zero-filled
> * pages after splitting an mlocked folio.
> */
Got it. I'll update the changelog and this comment as suggested.
>
>> + if (folio_test_mlocked(folio))
>> + goto next;
>> underused = thp_underused(folio);
>> if (!underused)
>> goto next;
>
>
Cheers,
Lance
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-08 8:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-08 4:07 Lance Yang
2025-09-08 7:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 8:13 ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-09-08 8:33 ` David Hildenbrand
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