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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] mm: madvise: implement lightweight guard page mechanism
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:21:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bc015d98-8bb5-466d-bcd6-9f9121c7fa03@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpFaHz-xW1Rh-+rJ8iLyV19JuG9Rm-eJsz3aOm8dUj3Ewg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 01:55:42PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 11:12 AM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 2:51 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
> > <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > Implement a new lightweight guard page feature, that is regions of userland
> > > virtual memory that, when accessed, cause a fatal signal to arise.
> > [...]
> > > ---
> > >  arch/alpha/include/uapi/asm/mman.h     |   3 +
> > >  arch/mips/include/uapi/asm/mman.h      |   3 +
> > >  arch/parisc/include/uapi/asm/mman.h    |   3 +
> > >  arch/xtensa/include/uapi/asm/mman.h    |   3 +
> > >  include/uapi/asm-generic/mman-common.h |   3 +
> >
> > I kinda wonder if we could start moving the parts of those headers
> > that are the same for all architectures to include/uapi/linux/mman.h
> > instead... but that's maybe out of scope for this series.
> >
> > [...]
> > > diff --git a/mm/madvise.c b/mm/madvise.c
> > > index e871a72a6c32..7216e10723ae 100644
> > > --- a/mm/madvise.c
> > > +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> > > @@ -60,6 +60,7 @@ static int madvise_need_mmap_write(int behavior)
> > >         case MADV_POPULATE_READ:
> > >         case MADV_POPULATE_WRITE:
> > >         case MADV_COLLAPSE:
> > > +       case MADV_GUARD_UNPOISON: /* Only poisoning needs a write lock. */
> >
> > What does poisoning need a write lock for? anon_vma_prepare() doesn't
> > need it (it only needs mmap_lock held for reading),
> > zap_page_range_single() doesn't need it, and pagewalk also doesn't
> > need it as long as the range being walked is covered by a VMA, which
> > it is...
> >
> > I see you set PGWALK_WRLOCK in guard_poison_walk_ops with a comment
> > saying "We might need to install an anon_vma" - is that referring to
> > an older version of the patch where the anon_vma_prepare() call was
> > inside the pagewalk callback or something like that? Either way,
> > anon_vma_prepare() doesn't need write locks (it can't, it has to work
> > from the page fault handling path).
>
> I was wondering about that too and I can't find any reason for
> write-locking the mm for this operation. PGWALK_WRLOCK should also be
> changed to PGWALK_RDLOCK as we are not modifying the VMA.

Indeed, as I said to Jann you're right and I was in error to use this, will
change!

>
> BTW, I'm testing your patchset on Android and so far it is stable!

Thanks!

As there is no significant conceptual pushback to this series, I will
un-RFC and post a version with fixes for the issues Jann raised, as well as
a fix for some xtensa et al. issues with header includes.

>
> >
> > >                 return 0;
> > >         default:
> > >                 /* be safe, default to 1. list exceptions explicitly */
> > [...]
> > > +static long madvise_guard_poison(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> > > +                                struct vm_area_struct **prev,
> > > +                                unsigned long start, unsigned long end)
> > > +{
> > > +       long err;
> > > +       bool retried = false;
> > > +
> > > +       *prev = vma;
> > > +       if (!is_valid_guard_vma(vma, /* allow_locked = */false))
> > > +               return -EINVAL;
> > > +
> > > +       /*
> > > +        * Optimistically try to install the guard poison pages first. If any
> > > +        * non-guard pages are encountered, give up and zap the range before
> > > +        * trying again.
> > > +        */
> > > +       while (true) {
> > > +               unsigned long num_installed = 0;
> > > +
> > > +               /* Returns < 0 on error, == 0 if success, > 0 if zap needed. */
> > > +               err = walk_page_range_mm(vma->vm_mm, start, end,
> > > +                                        &guard_poison_walk_ops,
> > > +                                        &num_installed);
> > > +               /*
> > > +                * If we install poison markers, then the range is no longer
> > > +                * empty from a page table perspective and therefore it's
> > > +                * appropriate to have an anon_vma.
> > > +                *
> > > +                * This ensures that on fork, we copy page tables correctly.
> > > +                */
> > > +               if (err >= 0 && num_installed > 0) {
> > > +                       int err_anon = anon_vma_prepare(vma);
> >
> > I'd move this up, to before we create poison PTEs. There's no harm in
> > attaching an anon_vma to the VMA even if the rest of the operation
> > fails; and I think it would be weird to have error paths that don't
> > attach an anon_vma even though they .
> >
> > > +                       if (err_anon)
> > > +                               err = err_anon;
> > > +               }
> > > +
> > > +               if (err <= 0)
> > > +                       return err;
> > > +
> > > +               if (!retried)
> > > +                       /*
> > > +                        * OK some of the range have non-guard pages mapped, zap
> > > +                        * them. This leaves existing guard pages in place.
> > > +                        */
> > > +                       zap_page_range_single(vma, start, end - start, NULL);
> > > +               else
> > > +                       /*
> > > +                        * If we reach here, then there is a racing fault that
> > > +                        * has populated the PTE after we zapped. Give up and
> > > +                        * let the user know to try again.
> > > +                        */
> > > +                       return -EAGAIN;
> >
> > Hmm, yeah, it would be nice if we could avoid telling userspace to
> > loop on -EAGAIN but I guess we don't have any particularly good
> > options here? Well, we could bail out with -EINTR if a (fatal?) signal
> > is pending and otherwise keep looping... if we'd tell userspace "try
> > again on -EAGAIN", we might as well do that in the kernel...
> >
> > (Personally I would put curly braces around these branches because
> > they occupy multiple lines, though the coding style doesn't explicitly
> > say that, so I guess maybe it's a matter of personal preference...
> > adding curly braces here would match what is done, for example, in
> > relocate_vma_down().)
> >
> > > +               retried = true;
> > > +       }
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static int guard_unpoison_pte_entry(pte_t *pte, unsigned long addr,
> > > +                                   unsigned long next, struct mm_walk *walk)
> > > +{
> > > +       pte_t ptent = ptep_get(pte);
> > > +
> > > +       if (is_guard_pte_marker(ptent)) {
> > > +               /* Simply clear the PTE marker. */
> > > +               pte_clear_not_present_full(walk->mm, addr, pte, true);
> >
> > I think that last parameter probably should be "false"? The sparc code
> > calls it "fullmm", which is a term the MM code uses when talking about
> > operations that remove all mappings in the entire mm_struct because
> > the process has died, which allows using some faster special-case
> > version of TLB shootdown or something along those lines.
> >
> > > +               update_mmu_cache(walk->vma, addr, pte);
> > > +       }
> > > +
> > > +       return 0;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static const struct mm_walk_ops guard_unpoison_walk_ops = {
> > > +       .pte_entry              = guard_unpoison_pte_entry,
> > > +       .walk_lock              = PGWALK_RDLOCK,
> > > +};
> >
> > It is a _little_ weird that unpoisoning creates page tables when they
> > don't already exist, which will also prevent creating THP entries on
> > fault in such areas afterwards... but I guess it doesn't really matter
> > given that poisoning has that effect, too, and you probably usually
> > won't call MADV_GUARD_UNPOISON on an area that hasn't been poisoned
> > before... so I guess this is not an actionable comment.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-14 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-27 12:51 [RFC PATCH 0/4] implement lightweight guard pages Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-27 12:51 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] mm: pagewalk: add the ability to install PTEs Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-30 16:05   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-11 18:11   ` Jann Horn
2024-10-14 11:10     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-15  6:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-15  7:27     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-27 12:51 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: add PTE_MARKER_GUARD PTE marker Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-11 18:11   ` Jann Horn
2024-10-14 10:23     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-27 12:51 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] mm: madvise: implement lightweight guard page mechanism Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-11 18:11   ` Jann Horn
2024-10-11 20:55     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-10-14 11:21       ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2024-10-14 11:08     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-14 15:56       ` Jann Horn
2024-10-14 16:56         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-14 18:14           ` Jann Horn
2024-10-14 19:27             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-27 12:51 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] selftests/mm: add self tests for guard page feature Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-30  7:23 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] implement lightweight guard pages Pavel Machek
2024-09-30  8:00   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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