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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, shuah@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: chrisl@kernel.org, hughd@google.com, kaleshsingh@google.com,
	kasong@tencent.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ying.huang@intel.com, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] selftests/mm: Introduce a test program to assess swap entry allocation for thp_swapout
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:25:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b99c2f80-3b53-4b04-b610-a66179b928a9@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0b20f47-384d-49f1-8449-0da6da11089c@redhat.com>

On 20/06/2024 12:34, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 20.06.24 11:04, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 20/06/2024 01:26, Barry Song wrote:
>>> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
>>>
>>> Both Ryan and Chris have been utilizing the small test program to aid
>>> in debugging and identifying issues with swap entry allocation. While
>>> a real or intricate workload might be more suitable for assessing the
>>> correctness and effectiveness of the swap allocation policy, a small
>>> test program presents a simpler means of understanding the problem and
>>> initially verifying the improvements being made.
>>>
>>> Let's endeavor to integrate it into the self-test suite. Although it
>>> presently only accommodates 64KB and 4KB, I'm optimistic that we can
>>> expand its capabilities to support multiple sizes and simulate more
>>> complex systems in the future as required.
>>
>> I'll try to summarize the thread with Huang Ying by suggesting this test program
>> is "neccessary but not sufficient" to exhaustively test the mTHP swap-out path.
>> I've certainly found it useful and think it would be a valuable addition to the
>> tree.
>>
>> That said, I'm not convinced it is a selftest; IMO a selftest should provide a
>> clear pass/fail result against some criteria and must be able to be run
>> automatically by (e.g.) a CI system.
> 
> Likely we should then consider moving other such performance-related thingies
> out of the selftests?

Yes, that would get my vote. But of the 4 tests you mentioned that use
clock_gettime(), it looks like transhuge-stress is the only one that doesn't
have a pass/fail result, so is probably the only candidate for moving.

The others either use the times as a timeout and determines failure if the
action didn't occur within the timeout (e.g. ksm_tests.c) or use it to add some
supplemental performance information to an otherwise functionality-oriented test.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-21  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-20  0:26 Barry Song
2024-06-20  1:53 ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  2:04   ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  5:20     ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  6:09       ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  6:34         ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  7:25           ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  7:59             ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  8:11               ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  8:26                 ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  9:07                   ` Barry Song
     [not found]   ` <3e185f8d-da63-4a61-9cd1-9804bd972515@redhat.com>
2024-06-20  7:24     ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  9:04 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-20 11:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-21  2:33     ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-21  7:25     ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2024-06-21  7:47       ` Barry Song
2024-06-21  7:58         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-21  8:50         ` Chris Li
2024-06-21 11:20           ` Barry Song
2024-06-21  9:22         ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-21  9:43           ` Barry Song
2024-06-24  3:42             ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-24  4:05               ` Barry Song
2024-06-24  6:59                 ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-24  7:55                   ` Barry Song
2024-06-21  8:52       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 23:34 ` Chris Li
2024-06-21  7:34   ` Ryan Roberts

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