From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>,
Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Matteo Rizzo <matteorizzo@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs/mm: add more warnings around page table access
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 07:48:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b915ff26-e90d-4151-ab2f-607f3c59f501@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21195425-53d9-4007-a020-8106f94158dc@bytedance.com>
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 02:53:52PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>
>
> On 2024/11/19 00:47, Jann Horn wrote:
> > Make it clearer that holding the mmap lock in read mode is not enough
> > to traverse page tables, and that just having a stable VMA is not enough
> > to read PTEs.
> >
> > Suggested-by: Matteo Rizzo <matteorizzo@google.com>
> > Suggested-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
>
> Acked-by: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>
> > +
> > +* On 32-bit architectures, they may be in high memory (meaning they need to be
> > + mapped into kernel memory to be accessible).
> > +* When empty, they can be unlinked and RCU-freed while holding an mmap lock or
> > + rmap lock for reading in combination with the PTE and PMD page table locks.
> > + In particular, this happens in :c:func:`!retract_page_tables` when handling
> > + :c:macro:`!MADV_COLLAPSE`.
> > + So accessing PTE-level page tables requires at least holding an RCU read lock;
> > + but that only suffices for readers that can tolerate racing with concurrent
> > + page table updates such that an empty PTE is observed (in a page table that
> > + has actually already been detached and marked for RCU freeing) while another
> > + new page table has been installed in the same location and filled with
> > + entries. Writers normally need to take the PTE lock and revalidate that the
> > + PMD entry still refers to the same PTE-level page table.
> > +
>
> In practice, this also happens in the retract_page_tables(). Maybe can
> add a note about this after my patch[1] is merged. ;)
>
> [1]. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/e5b321ffc3ebfcc46e53830e917ad246f7d2825f.1731566457.git.zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com/
You could even queue the doc change up there? :>)
I think one really nice thing with having docs in-tree like this is when we
change things that alter the doc's accuracy we can queue them up with the
patch so the doc always stays in sync.
I feel you may have accidentally self-volunteered there ;)
>
> Thanks!
>
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-19 7:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-18 16:47 Jann Horn
2024-11-18 17:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-19 6:53 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-19 7:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2024-11-19 8:02 ` Qi Zheng
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