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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Linus Torvalds' <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
	"Jason@zx2c4.com" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	"pedro.falcato@gmail.com" <pedro.falcato@gmail.com>,
	Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 1/8] minmax: Put all the clamp() definitions together
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:13:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b89b80c7060c43f8a937b8021b4fd7cb@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wigkg43sZJKuRuYOzWzj9bxczE2toHNc=yxfyMM3m_kcA@mail.gmail.com>

From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>
> Sent: 28 July 2024 21:32
> 
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 at 13:23, David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> >
> > MIN() (and probably your MIN_T()) ought to have a check for
> > being a constant in order to stop misuse.
> 
> No, we have a number of "runtime constants" that are basically
> "constants" set up at boot-time for the architecture,as pointed out by
> the powerpc people in private:
> 
> Ie, we have arch/powerpc/include/asm/page.h:
> 
>    #define HPAGE_SHIFT hpage_shift
> 
> and then
> 
>   #define HUGETLB_PAGE_ORDER      (HPAGE_SHIFT - PAGE_SHIFT)
> 
> and then
> 
>    #define pageblock_order         MIN_T(unsigned int,
> HUGETLB_PAGE_ORDER, MAX_PAGE_ORDER)
> 
> and we really *REALLY* don't want to force the complicated "min_t()"
> (or, worse yet, "min()") functions here just because there's actually
> a variable involved.
> 
> That variable gets initialized early in
> hugetlbpage_init_defaultsize(), so it's *effectively* a constant, but
> not as far as the compiler is concerned.

Ok, but those can't be used as array sizes or constants.
So the temporaries don't matter.
Don't they just work with min() - if not where is the signednes mismatch?

Perhaps we want:
	min() - temporaries, signedness check.
	min_t() - temporaries of given type, maybe check size not reduced?
	MIN() - no temporaries, no signedness check, only valid for constants.
	_min() - temporaries, no signedness check.
	_MIN() - no temporaries, no signedness check, variables allowed.

I'm not sure where your MIN_T() fits in the above.

Personally I think min_t() was a mistake.
Only one input can need a cast and an explicit cast would be safer.

	David

> 
>            Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-28 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-28 14:15 [PATCH v2 0/8] minmax: reduce compilation time David Laight
2024-07-28 14:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] minmax: Put all the clamp() definitions together David Laight
2024-07-28 17:24   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-28 18:11     ` David Laight
2024-07-28 19:55       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-28 20:09         ` David Laight
2024-07-28 20:13           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-28 20:22             ` David Laight
2024-07-28 20:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-28 22:13                 ` David Laight [this message]
2024-07-28 22:22                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-29  8:01                     ` David Laight
2024-07-28 21:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-28 21:53                 ` David Laight
2024-07-29  4:15                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-29 22:25             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-29 23:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-30  1:52                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-30  3:59                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-30 10:10                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-30 14:14                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-30 18:02                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-30 19:52                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-30 21:47                           ` David Laight
2024-07-30 22:44                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-30 23:03                               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-31  8:09                                 ` David Laight
2024-07-31 10:50                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-31 15:38                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-31 15:56                                     ` David Laight
2024-07-31 16:04                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-04 13:15                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-12-04 17:16                         ` David Laight
2024-07-30 16:35                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-30 16:46                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-30 12:03               ` David Laight
2024-07-28 18:23     ` David Laight
2024-07-28 14:18 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] minmax: Use _Static_assert() instead of static_assert() David Laight
2024-07-28 17:51   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-07-28 18:12     ` David Laight
2024-07-28 14:19 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] compiler.h: Add __if_constexpr(expr, if_const, if_not_const) David Laight
2024-07-28 14:20 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] minmax: Simplify signedness check David Laight
2024-07-28 16:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-28 18:14     ` David Laight
2024-07-28 20:13       ` David Laight
2024-07-28 14:21 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] minmax: Factor out the zero-extension logic from umin/umax David Laight
2024-07-28 14:22 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] minmax: Optimise _Static_assert() check in clamp() David Laight
2024-07-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] minmax: Use __auto_type David Laight
2024-07-28 16:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-28 14:24 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] minmax: minmax: Add __types_ok3() and optimise defines with 3 arguments David Laight

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