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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Zhaoyang Huang <huangzhaoyang@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"zhaoyang.huang" <zhaoyang.huang@unisoc.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ke.wang@unisoc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv5] mm: skip CMA pages when they are not available
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 12:01:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b72118b0-47dc-86c4-15fb-fb5ea72bcf30@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGWkznFv=LjrjdqvepYtMP-e5JRp2wuWakd=CGLQQZ7aBx36Hg@mail.gmail.com>

On 12.06.23 11:35, Zhaoyang Huang wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 5:29 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 10.06.23 00:35, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 10:51:01 +0800 "zhaoyang.huang" <zhaoyang.huang@unisoc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Zhaoyang Huang <zhaoyang.huang@unisoc.com>
>>>>
>>>> This patch fixes unproductive reclaiming of CMA pages by skipping them when they
>>>> are not available for current context. It is arise from bellowing OOM issue, which
>>>> caused by large proportion of MIGRATE_CMA pages among free pages.
>>>>
>>>> [   36.172486] [03-19 10:05:52.172] ActivityManager: page allocation failure: order:0, mode:0xc00(GFP_NOIO), nodemask=(null),cpuset=foreground,mems_allowed=0
>>>> [   36.189447] [03-19 10:05:52.189] DMA32: 0*4kB 447*8kB (C) 217*16kB (C) 124*32kB (C) 136*64kB (C) 70*128kB (C) 22*256kB (C) 3*512kB (C) 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 35848kB
>>>> [   36.193125] [03-19 10:05:52.193] Normal: 231*4kB (UMEH) 49*8kB (MEH) 14*16kB (H) 13*32kB (H) 8*64kB (H) 2*128kB (H) 0*256kB 1*512kB (H) 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 3236kB
>>>> ...
>>>> [   36.234447] [03-19 10:05:52.234] SLUB: Unable to allocate memory on node -1, gfp=0xa20(GFP_ATOMIC)
>>>> [   36.234455] [03-19 10:05:52.234] cache: ext4_io_end, object size: 64, buffer size: 64, default order: 0, min order: 0
>>>> [   36.234459] [03-19 10:05:52.234] node 0: slabs: 53,objs: 3392, free: 0
>>>>
>>>
>>> We saw plenty of feedback for earlier versions, but now silence.  Does
>>> this mean we're all OK with v5?
>>
>> The logic kind-of makes sense to me (but the kswapd special-casing
>> already shows that it might be a bit fragile for future use), but I did
>> not yet figure out if this actually fixes something or is a pure
>> performance improvement.
>>
>> As we phrased it in the comment "It is waste of effort", but in the
>> patch description "This patch fixes unproductive reclaiming" + a scary
>> dmesg.
>>
>> Am I correct that this is a pure performance optimization (and the issue
>> revealed itself in that OOM report), or does this actually *fix* something?
>>
>> If it's a performance improvement, it would be good to show that it is
>> an actual improvement worth the churn ...
> Sorry for the confusion. As for the OOM issue, the previous
> commit(https://lkml.kernel.org/r/1683782550-25799-1-git-send-email-zhaoyang.huang@unisoc.com)
> helps to decrease the fail rate from 12/20 to 2/20, which it turn to
> be 0 when applying this patch.

Thanks! Can we make that clearer in the patch description? I'm 
struggling a bit my self to find the right words.

Something like

"This change further decreases the chance for wrong OOMs in the presence 
of a lot of CMA memory."

?

In any case

Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-12 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-31  2:51 zhaoyang.huang
2023-06-09 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2023-06-10  1:51   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-12  9:29   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-12  9:35     ` Zhaoyang Huang
2023-06-12 10:01       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-06-12 20:56         ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-13  9:49 ` Breno Leitao

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