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From: Juerg Haefliger <juerg.haefliger@canonical.com>
To: Tycho Andersen <tycho@docker.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Marco Benatto <marco.antonio.780@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v5 04/10] arm64: Add __flush_tlb_one()
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:43:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b50951e4-0b80-6d0e-39ed-fd9d67a51db3@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170830164724.m6bbogd46ix4qp4o@docker>


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On 08/30/2017 06:47 PM, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 07:31:25AM +0200, Juerg Haefliger wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 08/23/2017 07:04 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:58:42AM -0600, Tycho Andersen wrote:
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 05:50:47PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
>>>>> That said, is there any reason not to use flush_tlb_kernel_range()
>>>>> directly?
>>>>
>>>> So it turns out that there is a difference between __flush_tlb_one() and
>>>> flush_tlb_kernel_range() on x86: flush_tlb_kernel_range() flushes all the TLBs
>>>> via on_each_cpu(), where as __flush_tlb_one() only flushes the local TLB (which
>>>> I think is enough here).
>>>
>>> That sounds suspicious; I don't think that __flush_tlb_one() is
>>> sufficient.
>>>
>>> If you only do local TLB maintenance, then the page is left accessible
>>> to other CPUs via the (stale) kernel mappings. i.e. the page isn't
>>> exclusively mapped by userspace.
>>
>> We flush all CPUs to get rid of stale entries when a new page is
>> allocated to userspace that was previously allocated to the kernel.
>> Is that the scenario you were thinking of?
> 
> I think there are two cases, the one you describe above, where the
> pages are first allocated, and a second one, where e.g. the pages are
> mapped into the kernel because of DMA or whatever. In the case you
> describe above, I think we're doing the right thing (which is why my
> test worked correctly, because it tested this case).
> 
> In the second case, when the pages are unmapped (i.e. the kernel is
> done doing DMA), do we need to flush the other CPUs TLBs? I think the
> current code is not quite correct, because if multiple tasks (CPUs)
> map the pages, only the TLB of the last one is flushed when the
> mapping is cleared, because the tlb is only flushed when ->mapcount
> drops to zero, leaving stale entries in the other TLBs. It's not clear
> to me what to do about this case.

For this to happen, multiple CPUs need to have the same userspace page
mapped at the same time. Is this a valid scenario?

...Juerg


> Thoughts?
> 
> Tycho
> 
>> ...Juerg
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-31  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-09 20:07 [PATCH v5 00/10] Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] mm: add MAP_HUGETLB support to vm_mmap Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] mm, x86: Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) Tycho Andersen
2017-08-14 18:51   ` Laura Abbott
2017-08-14 22:30   ` Laura Abbott
2017-08-15  3:47     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-15  3:51       ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] swiotlb: Map the buffer if it was unmapped by XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-08-10 13:01   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-10 16:22     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-20 16:19   ` Dave Hansen
2017-09-20 22:47     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-20 23:25       ` Dave Hansen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] arm64: Add __flush_tlb_one() Tycho Andersen
2017-08-12 11:26   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2017-08-14 16:35     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-14 16:50       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-14 17:01         ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-23 16:58         ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-23 17:04           ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-23 17:13             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-24 15:45               ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-29 17:24                 ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-30  5:31             ` Juerg Haefliger
2017-08-30 16:47               ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-31  9:43                 ` Juerg Haefliger [this message]
2017-08-31  9:47                   ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-31 21:21                     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] arm64/mm: Add support for XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-08-11 18:01   ` [kernel-hardening] " Laura Abbott
2017-08-11 20:19     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] arm64/mm: Disable section mappings if XPFO is enabled Tycho Andersen
2017-08-11 17:25   ` [kernel-hardening] " Laura Abbott
2017-08-11 21:13     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-11 21:52       ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-12 11:17       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-14 16:22         ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-14 18:42           ` Laura Abbott
2017-08-14 20:28             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] arm64/mm: Don't flush the data cache if the page is unmapped by XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-08-12 11:57   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2017-08-14 16:54     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-14 20:27     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-15  9:39       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] arm64/mm: Add support for XPFO to swiotlb Tycho Andersen
2017-08-10 13:11   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-08-10 16:35     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] mm: add a user_virt_to_phys symbol Tycho Andersen
2017-08-09 20:07 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] lkdtm: Add test for XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-08-12 20:24   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-14 16:21     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-12 21:05   ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-14 19:10   ` Kees Cook
2017-08-14 20:29     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-08-11 23:35 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v5 00/10] Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership Laura Abbott

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