From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] mm/page_alloc: count CMA pages per zone and print them in /proc/zoneinfo
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:01:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b423f7a4-ac2b-c325-8f5d-51fbcb733da5@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210128134458.GA8136@localhost.localdomain>
On 28.01.21 14:44, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 11:43:41AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> My knowledge of CMA tends to be quite low, actually I though that CMA
>>> was somehow tied to ZONE_MOVABLE.
>>
>> CMA is often placed into one of the kernel zones, but can also end up in the movable zone.
>
> Ok good to know.
>
>>> I see how tracking CMA pages per zona might give you a clue, but what do
>>> you mean by "might behave differently - even after some of these pages might
>>> already have been allocated"
>>
>> Assume you have 4GB in ZONE_NORMAL but 1GB is assigned for CMA. You actually only have 3GB available for random kernel allocations, not 4GB.
>>
>> Currently, you can only observe the free CMA pages, excluding any pages that are already allocated. Having that information how many CMA pages we have can be helpful - similar to what we already have in /proc/meminfo.
>
> I see, I agree that it can provide some guidance.
>
>>> I see that NR_FREE_CMA_PAGES is there even without CONFIG_CMA, as you
>>> said, but I am not sure about adding size to a zone unconditionally.
>>> I mean, it is not terrible as IIRC, the maximum MAX_NUMNODES can get
>>> is 1024, and on x86_64 that would be (1024 * 4 zones) * 8 = 32K.
>>> So not a big deal, but still.
>>
>> I'm asking myself how many such systems will run without
>> CONFIG_CMA in the future.
>
> I am not sure, my comment was just to point out that even the added size might
> not be that large, hiding it under CONFIG_CMA seemed the right thing to
> do.
>
>>> diff --git a/mm/vmstat.c b/mm/vmstat.c
>>> index 8ba0870ecddd..5757df4bfd45 100644
>>> --- a/mm/vmstat.c
>>> +++ b/mm/vmstat.c
>>> @@ -1559,13 +1559,15 @@ static void zoneinfo_show_print(struct seq_file *m, pg_data_t *pgdat,
>>> "\n spanned %lu"
>>> "\n present %lu"
>>> "\n managed %lu",
>>> + "\n cma %lu",
>>> zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES),
>>> min_wmark_pages(zone),
>>> low_wmark_pages(zone),
>>> high_wmark_pages(zone),
>>> zone->spanned_pages,
>>> zone->present_pages,
>>> - zone->managed_pages);
>>> + zone->managed_pages,
>>> + IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_CMA) ? zone->cma_pages : 0);
>>> seq_printf(m,
>>> "\n protection: (%ld",
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not see it that ugly, but just my taste.
>>
>> IIRC, that does not work. The compiler will still complain
>> about a missing struct members. We would have to provide a
>> zone_cma_pages() helper with some ifdefery.
>
> Of course, it seems I switched off my brain.
>
>> We could do something like this on top
>>
>> --- a/include/linux/mmzone.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>> @@ -530,7 +530,9 @@ struct zone {
>> atomic_long_t managed_pages;
>> unsigned long spanned_pages;
>> unsigned long present_pages;
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_CMA
>> unsigned long cma_pages;
>> +#endif
>> const char *name;
>> diff --git a/mm/vmstat.c b/mm/vmstat.c
>> index 97fc32a53320..b753a64f099f 100644
>> --- a/mm/vmstat.c
>> +++ b/mm/vmstat.c
>> @@ -1643,7 +1643,10 @@ static void zoneinfo_show_print(struct seq_file *m, pg_data_t *pgdat,
>> "\n spanned %lu"
>> "\n present %lu"
>> "\n managed %lu"
>> - "\n cma %lu",
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_CMA
>> + "\n cma %lu"
>> +#endif
>> + "%s",
>> zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES),
>> min_wmark_pages(zone),
>> low_wmark_pages(zone),
>> @@ -1651,7 +1654,10 @@ static void zoneinfo_show_print(struct seq_file *m, pg_data_t *pgdat,
>> zone->spanned_pages,
>> zone->present_pages,
>> zone_managed_pages(zone),
>> - zone->cma_pages);
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_CMA
>> + zone->cma_pages,
>> +#endif
>> + "");
>> seq_printf(m,
>> "\n protection: (%ld",
>
> Looks good to me, but I can see how those #ifdef can raise some
> eyebrows.
We could print it further above to avoid the "%s" ... "", or print it
separately below. Then we'd only need a single ifdef. Might make sense
> Let us see what other thinks as well.
>
> Btw, should linux-uapi be CCed, as /proc/vmstat layout will change?
Is there a linux-uapi@ list? I know linux-api@ ("forum to discuss
changes that affect the Linux programming interface (API or ABI)".
Good question, I can certainly cc linux-api@, although I doubt it's
strictly necessary when adding something here.
Thanks!
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-28 14:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-27 10:18 [PATCH v1 0/2] mm/cma: better error handling and count pages per zone David Hildenbrand
2021-01-27 10:18 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] mm/cma: expose all pages to the buddy if activation of an area fails David Hildenbrand
2021-01-27 15:58 ` Zi Yan
2021-01-28 9:59 ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-27 10:18 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] mm/page_alloc: count CMA pages per zone and print them in /proc/zoneinfo David Hildenbrand
2021-01-28 10:22 ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-28 10:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-28 13:44 ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-28 13:46 ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-28 14:01 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-01-28 16:45 ` [PATCH v2] " David Hildenbrand
2021-01-28 21:42 ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-28 21:54 ` David Rientjes
2021-01-28 22:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-28 22:28 ` David Rientjes
2021-01-28 22:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-29 11:34 ` [PATCH v3] " David Hildenbrand
2021-01-29 11:46 ` Oscar Salvador
2021-01-29 11:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-30 8:48 ` David Rientjes
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