From: Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>
To: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/12] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 16:03:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b22e222f-1d6a-4685-871c-1aaee319b744@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250417000238.74567-13-npache@redhat.com>
On 17/04/2025 01:02, Nico Pache wrote:
> Now that we can collapse to mTHPs lets update the admin guide to
> reflect these changes and provide proper guidence on how to utilize it.
>
> Signed-off-by: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
> ---
> Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst | 10 +++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> index dff8d5985f0f..06814e05e1d5 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> @@ -63,7 +63,7 @@ often.
> THP can be enabled system wide or restricted to certain tasks or even
> memory ranges inside task's address space. Unless THP is completely
> disabled, there is ``khugepaged`` daemon that scans memory and
> -collapses sequences of basic pages into PMD-sized huge pages.
> +collapses sequences of basic pages into huge pages.
>
> The THP behaviour is controlled via :ref:`sysfs <thp_sysfs>`
> interface and using madvise(2) and prctl(2) system calls.
> @@ -144,6 +144,14 @@ hugepage sizes have enabled="never". If enabling multiple hugepage
> sizes, the kernel will select the most appropriate enabled size for a
> given allocation.
>
> +khugepaged uses max_ptes_none scaled to the order of the enabled mTHP size to
> +determine collapses. When using mTHPs it's recommended to set max_ptes_none
> +low-- ideally less than HPAGE_PMD_NR / 2 (255 on 4k page size). This will
> +prevent undesired "creep" behavior that leads to continuously collapsing to a
> +larger mTHP size. max_ptes_shared and max_ptes_swap have no effect when
> +collapsing to a mTHP, and mTHP collapse will fail on shared or swapped out
> +pages.
> +
Hi Nico,
Could you add a bit more explanation of the creep behaviour here in documentation.
I remember you explained in one of the earlier versions that if more than half of the
collapsed mTHP is zero-filled, it for some reason becomes eligible for collapsing to
larger order, but if less than half is zero-filled its not eligible? I cant exactly
remember what the reason was :) Would be good to have it documented more if possible.
Thanks
> It's also possible to limit defrag efforts in the VM to generate
> anonymous hugepages in case they're not immediately free to madvise
> regions or to never try to defrag memory and simply fallback to regular
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-24 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-17 0:02 [PATCH v4 00/12] khugepaged: mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 01/12] introduce khugepaged_collapse_single_pmd to unify khugepaged and madvise_collapse Nico Pache
2025-04-23 6:44 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-23 7:06 ` Nico Pache
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 02/12] khugepaged: rename hpage_collapse_* to khugepaged_* Nico Pache
2025-04-23 6:49 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/12] khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-04-23 6:55 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/12] khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2025-04-23 7:06 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/12] khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-04-23 7:30 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-23 8:00 ` Nico Pache
2025-04-23 8:25 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/12] khugepaged: introduce khugepaged_scan_bitmap " Nico Pache
2025-04-27 2:51 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-28 14:47 ` Nico Pache
2025-04-29 7:16 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/12] khugepaged: add " Nico Pache
2025-04-24 12:21 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-28 15:14 ` Nico Pache
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/12] khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2025-04-24 7:48 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-28 15:44 ` Nico Pache
2025-04-29 6:53 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 09/12] khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 10/12] khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2025-04-24 7:51 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 11/12] khugepaged: add per-order mTHP khugepaged stats Nico Pache
2025-04-24 7:58 ` Baolin Wang
2025-04-28 15:45 ` Nico Pache
2025-04-17 0:02 ` [PATCH v4 12/12] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2025-04-24 15:03 ` Usama Arif [this message]
2025-04-28 14:54 ` Nico Pache
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