From: "Matthew Hawkins" <darthmdh@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [ck] Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:26:57 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b21f8390707241826o1422ca3aga9b6516a55dd961d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070723221846.d2744f42.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On 7/24/07, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> The other consideration here is, as Nick points out, are the problems which
> people see this patch solving for them solveable in other, better ways?
> IOW, is this patch fixing up preexisting deficiencies post-facto?
So let me get this straight - you don't want to merge swap prefetch
which exists now and solves issues many people are seeing, and has
been tested more than a gazillion other bits & pieces that do get
merged - because it could be possible that in the future some other
patch, which doesn't yet exist and nobody is working on, may solve the
problem better?
You know what, just release Linux 0.02 as 2.6.23 because, using your
logic, everything that was merged since October 5, 1991 could be
replaced by something better. Perhaps. So there's obviously no point
having it there in the first place & there'll be untold savings in
storage costs and compilation time for the kernel tree, also bandwidth
for the mirror sites etc. in the mean time while we wait for the magic
pixies to come and deliver the one true piece of code that cannot be
improved upon.
> Well. The above, plus there's always a lot of stuff happening in MM land,
> and I haven't seen much in the way of enthusiasm from the usual MM
> developers.
I haven't seen much in the way of enthusiasm from developers, period.
People are tired of maintaining patches for years that never get
merged into mainline because of totally bullshit reasons (usually
amounting to NIH syndrome)
--
Matt
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2007-07-10 10:15 ` Con Kolivas
2007-07-11 1:02 ` Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-11 1:14 ` [ck] " Andrew Morton
2007-07-11 1:52 ` André Goddard Rosa
2007-07-11 4:25 ` [ck] " André Goddard Rosa
2007-07-11 2:21 ` Ira Snyder
2007-07-11 3:37 ` timotheus
2007-07-11 2:54 ` Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-11 5:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-11 5:47 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-11 5:54 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-11 6:04 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-11 6:24 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-11 7:50 ` swap prefetch (Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23) Ingo Molnar
2007-07-11 6:00 ` [ck] Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 Nick Piggin
2007-07-11 3:59 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2007-07-11 12:26 ` Kevin Winchester
2007-07-11 12:36 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-12 12:06 ` Kacper Wysocki
2007-07-12 12:35 ` Avuton Olrich
2007-07-22 23:11 ` Con Kolivas
2007-07-23 23:08 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-24 3:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-24 4:53 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-24 5:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-24 5:18 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-24 5:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-24 16:11 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 - Completely Fair Swap Prefetch Frank Kingswood
2007-07-25 0:59 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-24 16:15 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 Ray Lee
2007-07-25 4:06 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 4:55 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 5:00 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 5:12 ` david
2007-07-25 5:30 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 5:51 ` david
2007-07-25 7:14 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-25 8:18 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 8:43 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 10:53 ` [ck] " Jos Poortvliet
2007-07-25 11:06 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 12:39 ` Jos Poortvliet
2007-07-25 13:30 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 13:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 17:33 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-25 20:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-26 2:32 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 4:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-26 10:22 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-25 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 11:40 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 11:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 16:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-25 22:05 ` Paul Jackson
2007-07-25 22:22 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-25 22:27 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-25 22:28 ` [ck] " Michael Chang
2007-07-25 23:45 ` André Goddard Rosa
2007-07-25 16:02 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-25 20:55 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-25 21:28 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-26 1:15 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-26 1:32 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-26 3:16 ` Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-26 22:30 ` Michael Chang
2007-07-25 5:30 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 5:37 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 5:53 ` david
2007-07-25 6:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 6:23 ` david
2007-07-25 7:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 7:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 7:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-25 10:41 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-25 6:19 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-25 6:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 6:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-25 7:19 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 6:44 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 16:09 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-26 4:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 5:53 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-26 6:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 6:17 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-26 6:33 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-26 6:50 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 7:43 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-26 7:59 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-28 0:24 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-26 14:19 ` [ck] " Michael Chang
2007-07-26 18:13 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 22:04 ` Dirk Schoebel
2007-07-26 22:33 ` Dirk Schoebel
2007-07-26 23:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-26 23:29 ` david
2007-07-26 23:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-27 0:12 ` david
2007-07-28 0:12 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-28 3:42 ` Daniel Cheng
2007-07-28 9:35 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-25 17:55 ` Frank A. Kingswood
2007-07-25 6:09 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-25 6:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 16:19 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-25 20:46 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-26 8:38 ` Frank Kingswood
2007-07-26 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-26 9:34 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 9:40 ` RFT: updatedb "morning after" problem [was: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23] Ingo Molnar
2007-07-26 10:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 10:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-27 0:33 ` [ck] " Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-30 9:33 ` Helge Hafting
2007-07-26 10:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-26 10:38 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 12:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-26 18:05 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-27 5:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-27 7:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-27 8:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-27 8:54 ` Al Viro
2007-07-27 9:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-27 9:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-27 10:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-27 10:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-27 17:45 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-27 18:16 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-27 19:43 ` david
2007-07-28 7:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-28 8:55 ` david
2007-07-28 10:11 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-28 11:21 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-28 16:29 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-28 21:03 ` david
2007-07-29 8:11 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 13:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-29 14:07 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 14:58 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 14:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 15:20 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 15:36 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 16:04 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 16:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 17:19 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 17:33 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 17:52 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 19:05 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 17:53 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-29 19:33 ` Paul Jackson
2007-07-29 20:00 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 20:18 ` Paul Jackson
2007-07-29 20:23 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-29 21:06 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-28 21:00 ` david
2007-07-29 10:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 11:41 ` david
2007-07-29 14:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-29 21:19 ` david
2007-08-06 2:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-06 2:22 ` david
2007-08-06 9:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-06 9:55 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2007-07-28 15:56 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-28 21:06 ` david
2007-07-28 21:48 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-27 20:28 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-28 5:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-27 23:15 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-07-27 23:29 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-28 0:08 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-07-28 1:10 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-29 12:53 ` Paul Jackson
2007-07-28 7:35 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-28 8:51 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-27 22:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-27 22:51 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-28 7:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-28 15:36 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-07-29 1:33 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-29 3:39 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-26 10:20 ` Al Viro
2007-07-26 12:23 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-26 14:59 ` Al Viro
2007-07-11 20:41 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-27 19:19 ` Paul Jackson
2007-07-26 13:05 ` Fredrik Klasson
2007-07-31 16:37 ` [ck] Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 Matthew Hawkins
2007-08-06 2:11 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 4:46 ` david
2007-07-25 8:00 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 8:07 ` david
2007-07-25 8:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 8:31 ` david
2007-07-25 8:33 ` david
2007-07-25 10:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-25 15:55 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-25 20:16 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-27 0:28 ` Magnus Naeslund
2007-07-24 5:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 6:01 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-24 6:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 9:38 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-07-25 1:26 ` Matthew Hawkins [this message]
2007-07-25 1:35 ` [ck] " David Miller, Matthew Hawkins
2007-07-24 0:08 ` Con Kolivas
2007-07-11 11:39 ` buffered write patches, " Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-11 17:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-11 12:23 ` lguest, " Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-11 15:45 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-11 18:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-12 1:21 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 2:28 ` David Miller, Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 2:48 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 2:51 ` David Miller, Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 3:15 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 3:35 ` David Miller, Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 4:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-12 4:52 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-12 11:10 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-19 17:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-20 3:27 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-20 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-12 0:54 ` fault vs invalidate race (Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23) Nick Piggin
2007-07-12 2:31 ` block_page_mkwrite? (Re: fault vs invalidate race (Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23)) David Chinner
2007-07-12 2:42 ` Nick Piggin
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