From: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
Anton Blanchard <anton@ozlabs.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/23] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2022 21:36:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1d963a8adf4618a53f996283c1bfae37323bbb6.camel@surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00f58dff-9df5-45ac-a078-d852f13b1dfe@www.fastmail.com>
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On Sun, 2022-01-09 at 17:52 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, at 1:51 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
>
> > > exit_mmap();
> > > for each cpu still in mm_cpumask:
> > > smp_load_acquire
> > >
> > > That's it, unless the mm is actually in use
> >
> > Ok, now do this for a machine with 1024 CPU's.
> >
> > And tell me it is "scalable".
> >
>
> Do you mean a machine with 1024 CPUs and 2 bits set in mm_cpumask or
> 1024 CPU with 800 bits set in mm_cpumask? In the former case, this
> is fine. In the latter case, *on x86*, sure it does 800 loads, but
> we're about to do 800 CR3 writes to tear the whole mess down, so the
> 800 loads should be in the noise. (And this series won't actually do
> this anyway on bare metal, since exit_mmap does the shootdown.)
Also, while 800 loads is kinda expensive, it is a heck of
a lot less expensive than 800 IPIs.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-10 2:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-08 16:43 [PATCH 00/23] mm, sched: Rework lazy mm handling Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 01/23] membarrier: Document why membarrier() works Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-12 15:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 02/23] x86/mm: Handle unlazying membarrier core sync in the arch code Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-12 15:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 03/23] membarrier: Remove membarrier_arch_switch_mm() prototype in core code Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 04/23] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-12 15:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 06/23] powerpc/membarrier: Remove special barrier on mm switch Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-10 8:42 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-12 15:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 07/23] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-12 16:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 08/23] membarrier: Remove redundant clear of mm->membarrier_state in exec_mmap() Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-12 16:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 09/23] membarrier: Fix incorrect barrier positions during exec and kthread_use_mm() Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-12 16:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-12 17:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 10/23] x86/events, x86/insn-eval: Remove incorrect active_mm references Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 11/23] sched/scs: Initialize shadow stack on idle thread bringup, not shutdown Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-10 22:06 ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 12/23] Rework "sched/core: Fix illegal RCU from offline CPUs" Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 13/23] exec: Remove unnecessary vmacache_seqnum clear in exec_mmap() Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:43 ` [PATCH 14/23] sched, exec: Factor current mm changes out from exec Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:44 ` [PATCH 15/23] kthread: Switch to __change_current_mm() Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:44 ` [PATCH 16/23] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-08 22:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-09 0:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-09 0:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-09 3:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-09 4:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-09 20:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-09 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-09 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-10 0:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-10 2:36 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2022-01-10 3:51 ` Linus Torvalds
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[not found] ` <1641791321.kvkq0n8kbq.astroid@bobo.none>
2022-01-10 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-10 20:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-11 3:10 ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-11 15:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-11 22:48 ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-11 10:39 ` Will Deacon
2022-01-11 15:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-09 5:56 ` Nadav Amit
2022-01-09 6:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-09 8:49 ` Nadav Amit
2022-01-09 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-09 19:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-09 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-09 20:34 ` Nadav Amit
2022-01-09 20:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-09 19:22 ` Rik van Riel
2022-01-09 19:34 ` Nadav Amit
2022-01-09 19:37 ` Rik van Riel
2022-01-09 19:51 ` Nadav Amit
2022-01-09 19:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-08 16:44 ` [PATCH 17/23] x86/mm: Make use/unuse_temporary_mm() non-static Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:44 ` [PATCH 18/23] x86/mm: Allow temporary mms when IRQs are on Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:44 ` [PATCH 19/23] x86/efi: Make efi_enter/leave_mm use the temporary_mm machinery Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-10 13:13 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-08 16:44 ` [PATCH 20/23] x86/mm: Remove leave_mm() in favor of unlazy_mm_irqs_off() Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:44 ` [PATCH 21/23] x86/mm: Use unlazy_mm_irqs_off() in TLB flush IPIs Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:44 ` [PATCH 22/23] x86/mm: Optimize for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu() Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-08 16:44 ` [PATCH 23/23] x86/mm: Opt in to IRQs-off activate_mm() Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <e6e7c11c38a3880e56fb7dfff4fa67090d831a3b.1641659630.git.luto@kernel.org>
2022-01-12 15:55 ` [PATCH 05/23] membarrier, kthread: Use _ONCE accessors for task->mm Mathieu Desnoyers
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