From: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
To: Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>, <jane.chu@oracle.com>
Cc: <nao.horiguchi@gmail.com>, <tony.luck@intel.com>,
<wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
<osalvador@suse.de>, <rientjes@google.com>, <duenwen@google.com>,
<jthoughton@google.com>, <jgg@nvidia.com>, <ankita@nvidia.com>,
<peterx@redhat.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/2] mm/memory-failure: introduce global MFR policy
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 15:04:50 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1bdd238-565c-ee6d-d7ac-a6cee90bd8fd@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACw3F52OF3HL7uv0dP1D9L=5EHrTP5bV9zjr931PVFVtPGwAug@mail.gmail.com>
On 2024/10/4 7:51, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
> Hi Jane,
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 4:50 PM <jane.chu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 9/23/2024 9:39 PM, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
>>>
>>> + /*
>>> + * On ARM64, if APEI failed to claims SEA, (e.g. GHES driver doesn't
>>> + * register to SEA notifications from firmware), memory_failure will
>>> + * never be synchrounous to the error consumption thread. Notifying
>>> + * it via SIGBUS synchrnously has to be done by either core kernel in
>>> + * do_mem_abort, or KVM in kvm_handle_guest_abort.
>>> + */
>>> + if (!sysctl_enable_hard_offline) {
>>> + pr_info_once("%#lx: disabled by /proc/sys/vm/enable_hard_offline\n", pfn);
>>> + kill_procs_now(p, pfn, flags, page_folio(p));
>>> + res = -EOPNOTSUPP;
>>> + goto unlock_mutex;
>>> + }
>>> +
>>
>> I am curious why the SIGBUS is sent without setting PG_hwpoison in the
>> page. In 0/2 there seems to be indication about threads coordinate
>> with each other such that clean subpages in a poisoned hugetlb page
>> continue to be accessible, and at some point, (or perhaps I misread),
>> the poisoned page (sub- or huge-) will eventually be isolated, because,
>
> The code here is "global policy". The "per-VMA policy", proposed in
> 0/2 but code not sent, should be able to support isolation + offline
> at some point (all VMAs are gone and page becomes free).
>
>> it's unthinkable to let a poisoned page laying around and kernel treats
>> it like a clean page ? But I'm not sure how do you plan to handle it
>> without PG_hwpoison while hard_offline is disabled globally.
>
> It will become the responsibility of a control plan running in
> userspace. For example, the control plan immediately prevents starting
> of any new workload/VM, but chooses to wait until memory errors exceed
> a certain threshold, or hold on to the hosts until all workloads/VMs
> are migrated and then repair the machine. Not setting PG_hwpoison is
> indeed a big difference and risk, so it needs to be carefully handled
> by userspace.
>
Could you explain why PG_hwpoison cannot be set in this case? It seems a control plan running in
userspace can work with PG_hwpoison set. PG_hwpoison makes sure hwpoisoned pages won't be re-used
by kernel while the control plan prevent them from re-accessed from userspace. Or am I miss something?
Thanks.
.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-11 7:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-24 4:39 [RFC PATCH v1 0/2] Userspace Can Control Memory Failure Recovery Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-24 4:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/2] mm/memory-failure: introduce global MFR policy Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-02 23:50 ` jane.chu
2024-10-03 23:51 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-07 17:24 ` jane.chu
2024-10-10 23:21 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-11 18:28 ` jane.chu
2024-10-11 19:44 ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-11 20:15 ` jane.chu
2024-10-15 23:45 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-15 23:56 ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-16 0:19 ` jane.chu
2024-10-11 7:04 ` Miaohe Lin [this message]
2024-10-15 23:58 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-24 4:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/2] docs: mm: add enable_hard_offline sysctl Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-02 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/2] Userspace Can Control Memory Failure Recovery Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-03 22:45 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-03 22:58 ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-03 23:19 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-03 23:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-04 18:32 ` Jiaqi Yan
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