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From: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
To: Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>, <jane.chu@oracle.com>
Cc: <nao.horiguchi@gmail.com>, <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	<wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<osalvador@suse.de>, <rientjes@google.com>, <duenwen@google.com>,
	<jthoughton@google.com>, <jgg@nvidia.com>, <ankita@nvidia.com>,
	<peterx@redhat.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/2] mm/memory-failure: introduce global MFR policy
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 15:04:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1bdd238-565c-ee6d-d7ac-a6cee90bd8fd@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACw3F52OF3HL7uv0dP1D9L=5EHrTP5bV9zjr931PVFVtPGwAug@mail.gmail.com>

On 2024/10/4 7:51, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
> Hi Jane,
> 
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 4:50 PM <jane.chu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 9/23/2024 9:39 PM, Jiaqi Yan wrote:
>>>
>>> +     /*
>>> +      * On ARM64, if APEI failed to claims SEA, (e.g. GHES driver doesn't
>>> +      * register to SEA notifications from firmware), memory_failure will
>>> +      * never be synchrounous to the error consumption thread. Notifying
>>> +      * it via SIGBUS synchrnously has to be done by either core kernel in
>>> +      * do_mem_abort, or KVM in kvm_handle_guest_abort.
>>> +      */
>>> +     if (!sysctl_enable_hard_offline) {
>>> +             pr_info_once("%#lx: disabled by /proc/sys/vm/enable_hard_offline\n", pfn);
>>> +             kill_procs_now(p, pfn, flags, page_folio(p));
>>> +             res = -EOPNOTSUPP;
>>> +             goto unlock_mutex;
>>> +     }
>>> +
>>
>> I am curious why the SIGBUS is sent without setting PG_hwpoison in the
>> page.   In 0/2 there seems to be indication about threads coordinate
>> with each other such that clean subpages in a poisoned hugetlb page
>> continue to be accessible, and at some point, (or perhaps I misread),
>> the poisoned page (sub- or huge-) will eventually be isolated, because,
> 
> The code here is "global policy". The "per-VMA policy", proposed in
> 0/2 but code not sent, should be able to support isolation + offline
> at some point (all VMAs are gone and page becomes free).
> 
>> it's unthinkable to let a poisoned page laying around and kernel treats
>> it like a clean page ?  But I'm not sure how do you plan to handle it
>> without PG_hwpoison while hard_offline is disabled globally.
> 
> It will become the responsibility of a control plan running in
> userspace. For example, the control plan immediately prevents starting
> of any new workload/VM, but chooses to wait until memory errors exceed
> a certain threshold, or hold on to the hosts until all workloads/VMs
> are migrated and then repair the machine. Not setting PG_hwpoison is
> indeed a big difference and risk, so it needs to be carefully handled
> by userspace.
> 

Could you explain why PG_hwpoison cannot be set in this case? It seems a control plan running in
userspace can work with PG_hwpoison set. PG_hwpoison makes sure hwpoisoned pages won't be re-used
by kernel while the control plan prevent them from re-accessed from userspace. Or am I miss something?

Thanks.
.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-11  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-24  4:39 [RFC PATCH v1 0/2] Userspace Can Control Memory Failure Recovery Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-24  4:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/2] mm/memory-failure: introduce global MFR policy Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-02 23:50   ` jane.chu
2024-10-03 23:51     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-07 17:24       ` jane.chu
2024-10-10 23:21         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-11 18:28           ` jane.chu
2024-10-11 19:44             ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-11 20:15               ` jane.chu
2024-10-15 23:45             ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-15 23:56               ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-16  0:19                 ` jane.chu
2024-10-11  7:04       ` Miaohe Lin [this message]
2024-10-15 23:58         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-24  4:39 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/2] docs: mm: add enable_hard_offline sysctl Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-02 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/2] Userspace Can Control Memory Failure Recovery Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-03 22:45   ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-03 22:58     ` Luck, Tony
2024-10-03 23:19       ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-10-03 23:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-04 18:32       ` Jiaqi Yan

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