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From: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
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	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
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Subject: Re: Deprecating and removing SLOB
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 17:02:11 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b119e0b7-be10-46d8-886b-b5071b1b9562@opensource.wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3SYA31zobR6/qbj@casper.infradead.org>

On 2022/11/16 16:57, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 01:28:14PM +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>> On 11/15/22 13:24, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>> 6.1-rc5, SLOB:
>>>     - 623 free pages
>>>     - 629 free pages
>>>     - 629 free pages
>>> 6.1-rc5, SLUB:
>>>     - 448 free pages
>>>     - 448 free pages
>>>     - 429 free pages
>>> 6.1-rc5, SLUB + slub_max_order=0:
>>>     - Init error, shell prompt but no shell command working
>>>     - Init error, no shell prompt
>>>     - 508 free pages
>>>     - Init error, shell prompt but no shell command working
>>> 6.1-rc5, SLUB + patch:
>>>     - Init error, shell prompt but no shell command working
>>>     - 433 free pages
>>>     - 448 free pages
>>>     - 423 free pages
>>> 6.1-rc5, SLUB + slub_max_order=0 + patch:
>>>     - Init error, no shell prompt
>>>     - Init error, shell prompt, 499 free pages
>>>     - Init error, shell prompt but no shell command working
>>>     - Init error, no shell prompt
>>>
>>> No changes for SLOB results, expected.
>>>
>>> For default SLUB, I did get all clean boots this time and could run the
>>> cat command. But I do see shell fork failures if I keep running commands.
>>>
>>> For SLUB + slub_max_order=0, I only got one clean boot with 508 free
>>> pages. Remaining runs failed to give a shell prompt or allow running cat
>>> command. For the clean boot, I do see higher number of free pages.
>>>
>>> SLUB with the patch was nearly identical to SLUB without the patch.
>>>
>>> And SLUB+patch+slub_max_order=0 gave again a lot of errors/bad boot. I
>>> could run the cat command only once, giving 499 free pages, so better than
>>> regular SLUB. But it seems that the memory is more fragmented as
>>> allocations fail more often.
>>
>> Note about the last case (SLUB+patch+slub_max_order=0). Here are the
>> messages I got when the init shell process fork failed:
>>
>> [    1.217998] nommu: Allocation of length 491520 from process 1 (sh) failed
>> [    1.224098] active_anon:0 inactive_anon:0 isolated_anon:0
>> [    1.224098]  active_file:5 inactive_file:12 isolated_file:0
>> [    1.224098]  unevictable:0 dirty:0 writeback:0
>> [    1.224098]  slab_reclaimable:38 slab_unreclaimable:459
>> [    1.224098]  mapped:0 shmem:0 pagetables:0
>> [    1.224098]  sec_pagetables:0 bounce:0
>> [    1.224098]  kernel_misc_reclaimable:0
>> [    1.224098]  free:859 free_pcp:0 free_cma:0
>> [    1.260419] Node 0 active_anon:0kB inactive_anon:0kB active_file:20kB
>> inactive_file:48kB unevictable:0kB isolated(anon):0kB isolated(file):0kB
>> mapped:0kB dirty:0kB writeback:0kB shmem:0kB writeback_tmp:0kB
>> kernel_stack:576kB pagetables:0kB sec_pagetables:0kB all_unreclaimable? no
>> [    1.285147] DMA32 free:3436kB boost:0kB min:312kB low:388kB high:464kB
>> reserved_highatomic:0KB active_anon:0kB inactive_anon:0kB active_file:0kB
>> inactive_file:28kB unevictable:0kB writepending:0kB present:8192kB
>> managed:6240kB mlocked:0kB bounce:0kB free_pcp:0kB local_pcp:0kB free_cma:0kB
>> [    1.310654] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0
>> [    1.314089] DMA32: 17*4kB (U) 10*8kB (U) 7*16kB (U) 6*32kB (U) 11*64kB
>> (U) 6*128kB (U) 6*256kB (U) 0*512kB 0*1024kB 0*2048kB 0*4096kB = 3460kB
>> [    1.326883] 33 total pagecache pages
>> [    1.330420] binfmt_flat: Unable to allocate RAM for process text/data,
>> errno -12
> 
> What you're seeing here is memory fragmentation.  There's more than 512kB
> of memory available, but nommu requires it to be contiguous, and it's
> not.  This is pretty bad, really.  We didn't even finish starting up
> and already we've managed to allocate at least one page from each of
> the 16 512kB chunks which existed.  Commit df48a5f7a3bb was supposed
> to improve matters by making exact allocations reassemble once they
> were freed.  Maybe the problem is entirely different.

I suspected something like this when seeing the reported "free:859" :)
What I can try next is booting without SD card and the bare minimum set of
drivers to see if the fragmentation is still there or not. Would that help ?
These one page allocations may be for device drivers so never freed, no ?

-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research



  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-16  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-08 15:55 Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-08 18:18 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-11-08 19:17   ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-08 18:46 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-11-08 20:13   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-11-09  9:09     ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-08 21:44 ` Pasha Tatashin
2022-11-09  9:00   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-09 15:50     ` Aaro Koskinen
2022-11-09 16:45       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-11-09 17:45       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-11-09 21:16       ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2022-11-09 17:57   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-11-09 23:00     ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-11 10:25       ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-12  1:40         ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-11 10:33   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-11 20:46     ` Conor Dooley
2022-11-12  1:40       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-14  1:55       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-14  5:48         ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-14  9:36           ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-14 11:35             ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-14 14:47               ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-11-15  4:24                 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-15  4:28                   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-16  7:57                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-11-16  8:02                       ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2022-11-16 17:51                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-17  0:22                     ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-21  4:30                     ` Damien Le Moal
2022-11-21 17:02                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-14 11:50             ` Hyeonggon Yoo
     [not found]     ` <Y25E9cJbhDAKi1vd@99bb1221be19>
     [not found]       ` <Y26FN02o7jhV87wl@localhost>
2022-11-11 21:11         ` [lkp] [+5395 bytes kernel size regression] [i386-tinyconfig] [b7c8731082] " Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-09 20:56 Paul Cercueil
2022-11-09 21:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-09 23:48   ` Aaro Koskinen
2022-11-09 23:51     ` Aaro Koskinen
2022-11-10  4:40     ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-11-10  7:31       ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-11-10  7:54         ` Feng Tang
2022-11-10 16:20         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-11-11  9:37           ` David Laight

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