From: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: kpromoted: Hot page info collection and promotion daemon
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 20:04:28 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b0609437-28df-4773-8058-d68d01030cfb@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z-Fhl6rLJH2wweGC@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>
On 24-Mar-25 7:13 PM, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 11:15:30AM +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
>> kpromoted is a kernel daemon that accumulates hot page info
>> from different sources and tries to promote pages from slow
>> tiers to top tiers. One instance of this thread runs on each
>> node that has CPUs.
>>
>
> Hot take: This sounds more like ktieringd not kpromoted
:-)
>
> Is it reasonable to split the tracking a promotion logic into separate
> interfaces? This would let us manage, for example, rate-limiting in the
> movement interface cleanly without having to care about the tiering
> system(s) associated with it.
>
> my_tiering_magic():
> ... identify hot things ...
> promote(batch_folios, optional_data);
> -> kick daemon thread to wake up and do the promotion
> ... continue async things ...
>
> Optional data could be anything from target nodes or accessor info, but
> not hotness information.
>
> Then users at least get a clean interface for things like rate-limiting,
> and everyone proposing their own take on tiering can consume it. This
> may also be useful for existing users (TPP, reclaim?, etc).
Yes, Makes sense to split tracking and promotion logic into separate
parts. There is no need for the promotion part to work with the hot page
list that belongs to the tracking part as I have done in this RFC.
Raghu and I already saw that migration part is kind of duplicated in our
patchsets(kmmscand and this) and were thinking of unifying them. Having
clean separation as you suggest will be good.
Regards,
Bharata.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-24 14:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-06 5:45 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Kernel daemon for detecting and promoting hot pages Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] mm: migrate: Allow misplaced migration without VMA too Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 12:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-07 3:00 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 17:24 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-06 17:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-06 18:19 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-06 18:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-06 20:03 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-24 2:55 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 14:51 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: kpromoted: Hot page info collection and promotion daemon Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 17:22 ` Mike Day
2025-03-07 3:27 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-13 16:44 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-03-17 3:39 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-17 15:05 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-17 16:22 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-17 18:24 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-13 20:36 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-03-17 3:49 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-14 15:28 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-18 4:09 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-18 14:17 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-24 3:35 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-28 4:55 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-24 13:43 ` Gregory Price
2025-03-24 14:34 ` Bharata B Rao [this message]
2025-03-06 5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] x86: ibs: In-kernel IBS driver for memory access profiling Bharata B Rao
2025-03-14 15:38 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-06 5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] x86: ibs: Enable IBS profiling for memory accesses Bharata B Rao
2025-03-16 22:00 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Kernel daemon for detecting and promoting hot pages SeongJae Park
2025-03-18 6:33 ` Raghavendra K T
2025-03-18 10:45 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-18 5:28 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20 9:07 ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-21 6:19 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25 8:18 ` Bharata B Rao
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