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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
To: zhangdongdong <zhangdongdong925@sina.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	 Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Richard Chang <richardycc@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	 Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>,
	David Stevens <stevensd@google.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,  Minchan Kim <minchan@google.com>,
	xiongping1@xiaomi.com, huangjianan@xiaomi.com,
	 wanghui33@xiaomi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/7] zram: introduce compressed data writeback
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2026 13:54:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aswaagdlczqq3sh2okdew2o5jtzmev5ghdz4ksvzmqkfsshbfw@aoxdptshkqvu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <731f6e5b-f678-49ef-ad8e-fe6ff85d5422@sina.com>

Hi,

On (26/01/08 18:36), zhangdongdong wrote:
[..]
> > I don't know if solving it on zram side alone is possible.  Maybe we
> > can get some help from the block layer: some sort of two-stage bio
> > submission.  First stage: submit chained bio-s, second stage: iterate
> > over all submitted and completed bio-s and decompress the data.  Again,
> > just thinking out loud.
> > 
> 
> Hi Sergey,
> 
> My thinking is largely aligned with yours. I agree that relying on zram
> alone is unlikely to fully solve this problem, especially without going
> back to atomic read/write.
> 
> Our current mitigation approach is to introduce a hook at the swap layer
> and move decompression there. By doing so, decompression happens in a
> fully sleepable context, which avoids the atomic-context constraints
> you outlined. This helps us sidestep the core issue rather than trying
> to force decompression back into zram completion paths.

This approach is limited to swap use-cases only, while zram
is a generic block device: one can mkfs on it and use it as
a normal block device.  So, this is not a complete solution.

[..]

> If I recall correctly, this issue first became noticeable after a block
> layer change was merged; I can try to dig that up and share more details
> later.

Interesting.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-13  4:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-01  9:47 [PATCHv2 0/7] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-12-01  9:47 ` [PATCHv2 1/7] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-07  3:50   ` zhangdongdong
2026-01-07  4:28     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-07  7:28       ` zhangdongdong
2026-01-07 10:14         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-08  2:57           ` zhangdongdong
2026-01-08  3:39             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-08 10:36               ` zhangdongdong
2026-01-13  4:54                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2025-12-01  9:47 ` [PATCHv2 2/7] zram: introduce writeback_compressed device attribute Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-12-01  9:47 ` [PATCHv2 3/7] zram: document writeback_batch_size Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-12-01  9:47 ` [PATCHv2 4/7] zram: move bd_stat to writeback section Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-12-01  9:47 ` [PATCHv2 5/7] zram: rename zram_free_page() Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-12-01  9:47 ` [PATCHv2 6/7] zram: switch to guard() for init_lock Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-12-01  9:47 ` [PATCHv2 7/7] zram: consolidate device-attr declarations Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-19  2:34 ` [PATCHv2 0/7] zram: introduce compressed data writeback Andrew Morton

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