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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
To: Li Zetao <lizetao.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	 Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, surenb@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-next] alloc_tag: add total bytes allocation information
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2025 11:21:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqrm4lieghuw5pvlubla6h5mxwkihlg5be3bnn3446xjd4kt5r@f7txjfhrlvkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9691a81-fb3d-4bff-a033-9b25dcf735fc@gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 06, 2025 at 02:01:41PM +0800, Li Zetao wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2025/7/3 1:14, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > +cc Peter, Ingo, Steven
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 12:38:06AM +0800, LiZetao wrote:
> > >  From bb3537ee638ac80eebcfe9160961e36df8d3ee4c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > > From: Li Zetao<lizetao.kernel@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 09:30:16 +0000
> > > Subject: [PATCH mm-next] alloc_tag: add total bytes allocation information
> > > 
> > > Some performance monitoring tools focus on real-time memory
> > > usage anddisplay the total amount of memory applied, which is
> > > convenient for analyzing the memory usage ratio.
> > > 
> > > Added total information in /proc/allocinfo to feedback the
> > > total amount of memory applied to the user. Example is as
> > > follows:
> > > 
> > > root:~# cat /proc/allocinfo|tail
> > >         98112      168 lib/radix-tree.c:338 func:__radix_tree_preload
> > >         12848       22 lib/radix-tree.c:276 func:radix_tree_node_alloc
> > >        300760      515 lib/radix-tree.c:253 func:radix_tree_node_alloc
> > >             0        0 lib/xarray.c:1214 func:xas_try_split
> > >             0        0 lib/xarray.c:1059 func:xas_split_alloc
> > >        208488      357 lib/xarray.c:378 func:xas_alloc
> > >             0        0 lib/xarray.c:344 func:__xas_nomem
> > >             0        0 lib/xarray.c:341 func:__xas_nomem
> > >             0        0 lib/xarray.c:309 func:xas_nomem
> > > total: 102208196
> > This makes it harder to process the output (numfmt chokes on lines it
> > don't understand, which makes the header a real problem).
> > 
> > Given this and the per-numa-node patchset, I am inclined towards adding
> > an ioctl interface and a userspace tool to do the processing.
> 
> In my opinion, using ioctl is not very convenient. What do you think if a
> file like
> 
> /proc/allocinfo_total can solve this problem?

We definitely don't want to dump more stuff in /proc, no.

There have been multiple proposals that would dump more stuff in
/proc/allocinfo, and we can't realistically do all that with a text
interface - that needs to stay stable and simple.

A userspace program reading data out via an ioctl will solve all the
things people have been wanting:

- Someone has been reading data out at high frequency for logging pretty
  graphs: we want to avoid string serialization/deserialization

- An ioctl is easier to make extensible (unless we want to go json, but
  I'm not sure the kernel is ready for that...)

- and that gives us a place to add commandline switches and arguments
  for displaying the data different ways (like the top command).

I don't have time to implement it myself, but I can guide someone and do
code review.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-06 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-01 16:38 LiZetao
2025-07-02 17:14 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-07-02 20:19   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-06  6:01   ` Li Zetao
2025-07-06 15:21     ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2025-07-08  2:05       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-08  2:16         ` Kent Overstreet
2025-07-08 14:38           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-08 15:13             ` Kent Overstreet
2025-07-08 15:22               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-07-08 17:23                 ` Kent Overstreet

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