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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	 Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	 "Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	 Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	 "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	 Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	 Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Allow shmem mappings with MREMAP_DONTUNMAP
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:58:23 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.2103181828300.3440@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210316201732.GD395976@xz-x1>

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021, Peter Xu wrote:
> 
> I'm curious whether it's okay to expand MREMAP_DONTUNMAP to PFNMAP too..
> E.g. vfio maps device MMIO regions with both VM_DONTEXPAND|VM_PFNMAP, to me it
> makes sense to allow the userspace to get such MMIO region remapped/duplicated
> somewhere else as long as the size won't change.  With the strict check as
> above we kill all those possibilities.
> 
> Though in that case we'll still need commits like cd544fd1dc92 to protect any
> customized ->mremap() when they're not supported.

It would take me many hours to arrive at a conclusion on that:
I'm going to spend the time differently, and let whoever ends up
wanting MREMAP_DONTUNMAP on a VM_PFNMAP area research the safety
of that for existing users.

I did look to see what added VM_PFNMAP to the original VM_DONTEXPAND:

v2.6.15
commit 4d7672b46244abffea1953e55688c0ea143dd617
Author: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@g5.osdl.org>
Date:   Fri Dec 16 10:21:23 2005 -0800

Make sure we copy pages inserted with "vm_insert_page()" on fork

The logic that decides that a fork() might be able to avoid copying a VM
area when it can be re-created by page faults didn't know about the new
vm_insert_page() case.

Also make some things a bit more anal wrt VM_PFNMAP.

Pointed out by Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>

Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>

So apparently I do bear some anal responsibility.  My concern seems
to have been that in those days an unexpected page fault in a special
driver area would end up allocating an anonymous page, which would
never get freed later.  Nowadays it looks like there's a SIGBUS for
the equivalent situation.

So probably VM_DONTEXPAND is less important than it was, and the
additional VM_PFNMAP safety net no longer necessary, and you could
strip it out of the old size check and Brian's new dontunmap check.

But I give no guarantee: I don't know VM_PFNMAP users at all well.

Hugh


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-19  1:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-03 17:52 Brian Geffon
2021-03-03 18:13 ` Brian Geffon
2021-03-03 19:04   ` Lokesh Gidra
2021-03-14  4:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2021-03-16 19:18   ` Brian Geffon
2021-03-16 19:31     ` Dmitry Safonov
2021-03-16 20:17   ` Peter Xu
2021-03-19  1:58     ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2021-03-17 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: Allow non-VM_DONTEXPAND and VM_PFNMAP " Brian Geffon
2021-03-17 19:13   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Revert "mremap: don't allow MREMAP_DONTUNMAP on special_mappings and aio" Brian Geffon
2021-03-17 20:40   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: Allow non-VM_DONTEXPAND and VM_PFNMAP mappings with MREMAP_DONTUNMAP Peter Xu
2021-03-17 20:44     ` Brian Geffon
2021-03-17 21:18       ` Peter Xu
2021-03-17 21:25         ` Brian Geffon
2021-03-17 21:41 ` [PATCH v3 " Brian Geffon
2021-03-17 21:41   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] Revert "mremap: don't allow MREMAP_DONTUNMAP on special_mappings and aio" Brian Geffon
2021-03-19  1:28     ` Hugh Dickins
2021-03-17 22:03   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] mm: Allow non-VM_DONTEXPAND and VM_PFNMAP mappings with MREMAP_DONTUNMAP Andrew Morton
2021-03-19  1:20   ` Hugh Dickins
2021-03-23 16:26 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: Extend MREMAP_DONTUNMAP to non-anonymous mappings Brian Geffon
2021-03-23 16:26   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] Revert "mremap: don't allow MREMAP_DONTUNMAP on special_mappings and aio" Brian Geffon
2021-03-23 18:16     ` Hugh Dickins
2021-03-23 18:26       ` Brian Geffon
2021-03-23 16:26   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] selftests: Add a MREMAP_DONTUNMAP selftest for shmem Brian Geffon
2021-03-23 16:26   ` [PATCH] mremap.2: MREMAP_DONTUNMAP to reflect to supported mappings Brian Geffon
2021-03-23 18:25 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] mm: Extend MREMAP_DONTUNMAP to non-anonymous mappings Brian Geffon
2021-03-23 18:25   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] Revert "mremap: don't allow MREMAP_DONTUNMAP on special_mappings and aio" Brian Geffon
2021-03-23 19:05     ` Dmitry Safonov
2021-03-23 18:25   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] selftests: Add a MREMAP_DONTUNMAP selftest for shmem Brian Geffon
2021-03-23 18:25   ` [PATCH] mremap.2: MREMAP_DONTUNMAP to reflect to supported mappings Brian Geffon
2021-03-25 21:34     ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-03-26 18:08       ` Brian Geffon
2022-05-10 20:50         ` Brian Geffon
2021-03-23 19:04   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] mm: Extend MREMAP_DONTUNMAP to non-anonymous mappings Dmitry Safonov

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