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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>,
	js1304@gmail.com,  Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@lge.com,  Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	 Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/8] mm/mempolicy: use a standard migration target allocation callback
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 15:23:03 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.2010091521460.12013@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68e09cac-d2d9-9ddf-6e10-0b8cc0befe82@oracle.com>

On Fri, 9 Oct 2020, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> On 10/8/20 10:50 PM, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > 
> > It's a problem I've faced before in tmpfs, keeping a hold on the
> > mapping while page lock is dropped.  Quite awkward: igrab() looks as
> > if it's the right thing to use, but turns out to give no protection
> > against umount.  Last time around, I ended up with a stop_eviction
> > count in the shmem inode, which shmem_evict_inode() waits on if
> > necessary.  Something like that could be done for hugetlbfs too,
> > but I'd prefer to do it without adding extra, if there is a way.
> 
> Thanks.

I failed to come up with anything neater than a stop_eviction count
in the hugetlbfs inode.

But that's not unlike a very special purpose rwsem added into the
hugetlbfs inode: and now that you're reconsidering how i_mmap_rwsem
got repurposed, perhaps you will end up with an rwsem of your own in
the hugetlbfs inode.

So I won't distract you with a stop_eviction patch unless you ask:
that's easy, what you're looking into is hard - good luck!

Hugh

> >>
> >> As mentioned above, I hope all this can be removed.
> > 
> > If you continue to nest page lock inside i_mmap_rwsem for hugetlbfs,
> > then I think that part of hugetlb_page_mapping_lock_write() has to
> > remain.  I'd much prefer that hugetlbfs did not reverse the usual
> > nesting, but accept that you had reasons for doing it that way.
> 
> Yes, that is necessary with the change to lock order.
> 
> Yesterday I found another issue/case to handle in the hugetlb COW code
> caused by the difference in lock nesting.  As a result, I am rethinking
> the decision to change the locking order.
> 
> The primary reason for changing the lock order was to make the hugetlb
> page fault code not have to worry about pte pointers changing.  The issue
> is that the pte pointer you get (or create) while walking the table
> without the page table lock could go away due to unsharing the PMD.  We
> can walk the table again after acquiring the lock and validate and possibly
> retry.  However, the backout code in this area which previously had to
> deal with truncation as well, was quite fragile and did not work in all
> corner cases.  This was mostly due to lovely huge page reservations.
> I thought that adding more complexity to the backout code was going to
> cause more issues.  Changing the locking order eliminated the pte pointer
> race as well as truncation.  However, it created new locking issues. :(
> 
> In parallel to working the locking issue, I am also exploring enhanced
> backout code to handle all the needed cases.
> -- 
> Mike Kravetz


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-09 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-23  6:13 [PATCH v3 0/8] clean-up the migration target allocation functions js1304
2020-06-23  6:13 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] mm/page_isolation: prefer the node of the source page js1304
2020-06-23  6:13 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] mm/migrate: move migration helper from .h to .c js1304
2020-06-23  6:13 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] mm/hugetlb: unify migration callbacks js1304
2020-06-24 21:18   ` Mike Kravetz
2020-06-25 11:26   ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-26  4:02     ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-07-02 16:13       ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-07-03  0:55         ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-06-23  6:13 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] mm/hugetlb: make hugetlb migration callback CMA aware js1304
2020-06-25 11:54   ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-26  4:49     ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-06-26  7:23       ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-29  6:27         ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-06-29  7:55           ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-30  6:30             ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-06-30  6:42               ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-30  7:22                 ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-06-30 16:37                   ` Mike Kravetz
2020-06-23  6:13 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] mm/migrate: make a standard migration target allocation function js1304
2020-06-25 12:05   ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-26  5:02     ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-06-26  7:33       ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-29  6:41         ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-06-29  8:03           ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-30  7:19             ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-07-03 15:25   ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-06-23  6:13 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] mm/gup: use a standard migration target allocation callback js1304
2020-06-25 12:08   ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-26  5:03     ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-07-03 15:56   ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-07-06  8:34     ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-06-23  6:13 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] mm/mempolicy: " js1304
2020-06-25 12:09   ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-03 15:59   ` Vlastimil Babka
     [not found]   ` <20200708012044.GC992@lca.pw>
2020-07-08  6:45     ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-08  3:21     ` Hugh Dickins
2020-10-08 17:29       ` Mike Kravetz
2020-10-09  5:50         ` Hugh Dickins
2020-10-09 17:42           ` Mike Kravetz
2020-10-09 22:23             ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2020-10-10  0:25               ` Mike Kravetz
2020-06-23  6:13 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] mm/page_alloc: remove a wrapper for alloc_migration_target() js1304
2020-06-25 12:10   ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-03 16:18   ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-07-06  8:44     ` Joonsoo Kim

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