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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Is it safe for kthreadd to drain_all_pages?
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 09:25:33 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1704070914520.1566@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1704061134240.17094@eggly.anvils>

On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 01:59:49PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > > Hi Mel,
> > > 
> > > I suspect that it's not safe for kthreadd to drain_all_pages();
> > > but I haven't studied flush_work() etc, so don't really know what
> > > I'm talking about: hoping that you will jump to a realization.
> > > 
> > 
> > You're right, it's not safe. If kthreadd is creating the workqueue
> > thread to do the drain and it'll recurse into itself.
> > 
> > > 4.11-rc has been giving me hangs after hours of swapping load.  At
> > > first they looked like memory leaks ("fork: Cannot allocate memory");
> > > but for no good reason I happened to do "cat /proc/sys/vm/stat_refresh"
> > > before looking at /proc/meminfo one time, and the stat_refresh stuck
> > > in D state, waiting for completion of flush_work like many kworkers.
> > > kthreadd waiting for completion of flush_work in drain_all_pages().
> > > 
> > 
> > It's asking itself to do work in all likelihood.
> > 
> > > Patch below has been running well for 36 hours now:
> > > a bit too early to be sure, but I think it's time to turn to you.
> > > 
> > 
> > I think the patch is valid but like Michal, would appreciate if you
> > could run the patch he linked to see if it also side-steps the same
> > problem. 
> > 
> > Good spot!
> 
> Thank you both for explanations, and direction to the two "drainging"
> patches.  I've put those on to 4.11-rc5 (and double-checked that I've
> taken mine off), and set it going.  Fine so far but much too soon to
> tell - mine did 56 hours with clean /var/log/messages before I switched,
> so I demand no less of Michal's :).  I'll report back tomorrow and the
> day after (unless badness appears sooner once I'm home).

24 hours so far, and with a clean /var/log/messages.  Not conclusive
yet, and of course I'll leave it running another couple of days, but
I'm increasingly sure that it works as you intended: I agree that

mm-move-pcp-and-lru-pcp-drainging-into-single-wq.patch
mm-move-pcp-and-lru-pcp-drainging-into-single-wq-fix.patch

should go to Linus as soon as convenient.  Though I think the commit
message needs something a bit stronger than "Quite annoying though".
Maybe add a line:

Fixes serious hang under load, observed repeatedly on 4.11-rc.

Thanks!
Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-07 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-05 20:59 Hugh Dickins
2017-04-06  8:55 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-06 13:06 ` Mel Gorman
2017-04-06 18:52   ` Hugh Dickins
2017-04-07 16:25     ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2017-04-07 16:39       ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-07 16:58         ` Hugh Dickins
2017-04-07 17:29           ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-07 18:46             ` Hugh Dickins
2017-04-08 17:04               ` Hugh Dickins
2017-04-08 18:09                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-04-13 17:56                   ` Andrea Arcangeli

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