From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Boaz Harrosh <ooo@electrozaur.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Benny Halevy <bhalevy@primarydata.com>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
osd-dev@open-osd.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] osd fs: __r4w_get_page rely on PageUptodate for uptodate
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 15:39:07 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1511011513240.11427@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5635E2B4.5070308@electrozaur.com>
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> On 10/29/2015 08:43 PM, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > Patch "mm: migrate dirty page without clear_page_dirty_for_io etc",
> > presently staged in mmotm and linux-next, simplifies the migration of
> > a PageDirty pagecache page: one stat needs moving from zone to zone
> > and that's about all.
> >
> > It's convenient and safest for it to shift the PageDirty bit from old
> > page to new, just before updating the zone stats: before copying data
> > and marking the new PageUptodate. This is all done while both pages
> > are isolated and locked, just as before; and just as before, there's
> > a moment when the new page is visible in the radix_tree, but not yet
> > PageUptodate. What's new is that it may now be briefly visible as
> > PageDirty before it is PageUptodate.
> >
> > When I scoured the tree to see if this could cause a problem anywhere,
> > the only places I found were in two similar functions __r4w_get_page():
> > which look up a page with find_get_page() (not using page lock), then
> > claim it's uptodate if it's PageDirty or PageWriteback or PageUptodate.
> >
> > I'm not sure whether that was right before, but now it might be wrong
> > (on rare occasions): only claim the page is uptodate if PageUptodate.
> > Or perhaps the page in question could never be migratable anyway?
> >
>
> Hi Sir Hugh
Hi Boaz - please pardon my informality :)
>
> I'm sorry, I admit the code is clear as mud, but your patch below is wrong.
>
> The *uptodate return from __r4w_get_page is not really "up-to-date" at all
> actually it means: "do we need to read the page from storage" writable/dirty pages
> we do not read from storage but use the newest data in memory.
>
> r4w means read-for-write which is when we need to bring in the full stripe to
> re-calculate raid5/6 . (when only the partial stripe is written)
Yes, that's what I understood from the code too, and how PageUptodate
is usually used: it allows the caller to bypass the overhead of locking
the page, rechecking PageUptodate, and reading it in if still necessary.
>
> The scenario below of: "briefly visible as PageDirty before it is PageUptodate"
> is fine in this case because in both cases we do not need to read the page.
But when do you think you have a PageDirty (or PageWriteback) page which
is not PageUptodate? We do not ClearPageUptodate when a page is modified.
PageUptodate normally remains set for as long as that page remains caching
that offset of the file. I think it's true to say that PageUptodate is
only cleared when an error, or sometimes an invalidation, occurs (or of
course when the page is freed for reuse).
I was going to suggest that you check through the places which
ClearPageUptodate, but that is rather a confusing exercise, since I think
the majority of them are actually redundant - pages don't come from the
allocator with PageUptodate set, and a filesystem would already be in
trouble if it set PageUptodate before the page was initialized (usually
by reading its data in from disk). So I think those ClearPageUptodates
on read error are redundant; though I'm not daring to remove them
(and they have no bearing on this patch at hand).
>
> Thanks for looking
> Boaz
>
> > Signed-off-by: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
>
> This patch is not correct!
I think you have actually confirmed that the patch is correct:
why bother to test PageDirty or PageWriteback when PageUptodate
already tells you what you need?
Or do these filesystems do something unusual with PageUptodate
when PageDirty is set? I didn't find it.
Thanks,
Hugh
>
> > ---
> >
> > fs/exofs/inode.c | 5 +----
> > fs/nfs/objlayout/objio_osd.c | 5 +----
> > 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> >
> > --- 4.3-next/fs/exofs/inode.c 2015-08-30 11:34:09.000000000 -0700
> > +++ linux/fs/exofs/inode.c 2015-10-28 16:55:18.795554294 -0700
> > @@ -592,10 +592,7 @@ static struct page *__r4w_get_page(void
> > }
> > unlock_page(page);
> > }
> > - if (PageDirty(page) || PageWriteback(page))
> > - *uptodate = true;
> > - else
> > - *uptodate = PageUptodate(page);
> > + *uptodate = PageUptodate(page);
> > EXOFS_DBGMSG2("index=0x%lx uptodate=%d\n", index, *uptodate);
> > return page;
> > } else {
> > --- 4.3-next/fs/nfs/objlayout/objio_osd.c 2015-10-21 18:35:07.620645439 -0700
> > +++ linux/fs/nfs/objlayout/objio_osd.c 2015-10-28 16:53:55.083686639 -0700
> > @@ -476,10 +476,7 @@ static struct page *__r4w_get_page(void
> > }
> > unlock_page(page);
> > }
> > - if (PageDirty(page) || PageWriteback(page))
> > - *uptodate = true;
> > - else
> > - *uptodate = PageUptodate(page);
> > + *uptodate = PageUptodate(page);
> > dprintk("%s: index=0x%lx uptodate=%d\n", __func__, index, *uptodate);
> > return page;
> > }
> >
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-01 23:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-29 18:43 Hugh Dickins
2015-11-01 10:00 ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-11-01 23:39 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2015-11-02 11:05 ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-11-03 2:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2015-11-03 9:24 ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-11-03 15:39 ` Hugh Dickins
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