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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux390@de.ibm.com, Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem swap memory accounting
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:05:06 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1407312204000.3912@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1406036632-26552-5-git-send-email-jmarchan@redhat.com>

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Jerome Marchand wrote:

> Adds get_mm_shswap() which compute the size of swaped out shmem. It
> does so by pagewalking the mm and using the new shmem_locate() function
> to get the physical location of shmem pages.
> The result is displayed in the new VmShSw line of /proc/<pid>/status.
> Use mm_walk an shmem_locate() to account paged out shmem pages.
> 
> It significantly slows down /proc/<pid>/status acccess speed when
> there is a big shmem mapping. If that is an issue, we can drop this
> patch and only display this counter in the inherently slower
> /proc/<pid>/smaps file (cf. next patch).
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>

Definite NAK to this one.  As you guessed yourself, it is always a
mistake to add one potentially very slow-to-gather number to a stats
file showing a group of quickly gathered numbers.

Is there anything you could do instead?  I don't know if it's worth
the (little) extra mm_struct storage and maintenance, but you could
add a VmShmSize, which shows that subset of VmSize (total_vm) which
is occupied by shmem mappings.

It's ambiguous what to deduce when VmShm is less than VmShmSize:
the difference might be swapped out, it might be holes in the sparse
object, it might be instantiated in the object but never faulted
into the mapping: in general it will be a mix of all of those.
So, sometimes useful info, but easy to be misled by it.

As I say, I don't know if VmShmSize would be worth adding, given its
deficiencies; and it could be worked out from /proc/<pid>/maps anyway.

Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-01  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-22 13:43 [PATCH RESEND 0/5] mm, shmem: Enhance per-process accounting of shared memory Jerome Marchand
2014-07-22 13:43 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem resident memory accounting Jerome Marchand
2014-08-01  5:01   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-08-01 14:36     ` Jerome Marchand
2014-07-22 13:43 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem_locate function Jerome Marchand
2014-08-01  5:01   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-22 13:43 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem_vma() helper Jerome Marchand
2014-07-24 19:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-01  5:03   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-08-01 14:37     ` Jerome Marchand
2014-07-22 13:43 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem swap memory accounting Jerome Marchand
2014-08-01  5:05   ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2014-08-01 14:44     ` Jerome Marchand
2014-07-22 13:43 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm, shmem: Show location of non-resident shmem pages in smaps Jerome Marchand
2014-08-01  5:06   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-08-01 15:23     ` Jerome Marchand
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-07-01 13:01 [PATCH 0/5] mm, shmem: Enhance per-process accounting of shared memnory Jerome Marchand
2014-07-01 13:02 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem swap memory accounting Jerome Marchand

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