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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, hughd@google.com,
	riel@redhat.com, mel@csn.ul.ie
Subject: Re: [patch]x86: clearing access bit don't flush tlb
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 08:42:15 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1404020830470.19355@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140402130143.GA1869@suse.de>

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 06:30:34AM +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > 
> > I posted this patch a year ago or so, but it gets lost. Repost it here to check
> > if we can make progress this time.
> > 
> > We use access bit to age a page at page reclaim. When clearing pte access bit,
> > we could skip tlb flush in X86. The side effect is if the pte is in tlb and pte
> > access bit is unset in page table, when cpu access the page again, cpu will not
> > set page table pte's access bit. Next time page reclaim will think this hot
> > page is old and reclaim it wrongly, but this doesn't corrupt data.
> > 
> > And according to intel manual, tlb has less than 1k entries, which covers < 4M
> > memory. In today's system, several giga byte memory is normal. After page
> > reclaim clears pte access bit and before cpu access the page again, it's quite
> > unlikely this page's pte is still in TLB. And context swich will flush tlb too.
> > The chance skiping tlb flush to impact page reclaim should be very rare.
> > 
> > Originally (in 2.5 kernel maybe), we didn't do tlb flush after clear access bit.
> > Hugh added it to fix some ARM and sparc issues. Since I only change this for
> > x86, there should be no risk.
> > 
> > And in some workloads, TLB flush overhead is very heavy. In my simple
> > multithread app with a lot of swap to several pcie SSD, removing the tlb flush
> > gives about 20% ~ 30% swapout speedup.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Shaohua Li <shli@fusionio.com>
> 
> I'm aware of the discussion on the more complex version and the outcome
> of that. While I think the corner case is real, I think it's also very
> unlikely and as this is an x86-only thing which will be safe from
> corruption at least;
> 
> Acked-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> 
> Shaohua, you almost certainly should resend this to Andrew with the
> ack's you collected so that he does not have to dig into the history
> trying to figure out what the exact story is.

And you can add my

Acked-by: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>

to your collection too: you and I discussed this at LSF/MM, and nowadays
I agree that the corner case that originally worried me (highly-accessed
page not getting its accessed bit updated and then temporarily unmapped)
is too unlikely a case to refuse the optimization: it might happen
occasionally, but I doubt anybody will notice.

Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-02 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-26 22:30 Shaohua Li
2014-03-26 23:55 ` Rik van Riel
2014-03-27 17:12   ` Shaohua Li
2014-03-27 18:41     ` Rik van Riel
2014-03-28 19:02       ` Shaohua Li
2014-03-30 12:58         ` Rik van Riel
2014-03-31  2:16           ` Shaohua Li
2014-04-02 13:01 ` Mel Gorman
2014-04-02 15:42   ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2014-04-03  0:42 Shaohua Li
2014-04-03 11:35 ` [patch] x86: " Ingo Molnar
2014-04-03 13:45   ` Shaohua Li
2014-04-04 15:01     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-08  7:58   ` Shaohua Li
2014-04-14 11:36     ` Ingo Molnar

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