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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@gmail.com>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, bpm@sgi.com, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca,
	jack@suse.cz, mtk.manpages@gmail.com, lczerner@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Namjae Jeon <namjae.jeon@samsung.com>,
	Ashish Sangwan <a.sangwan@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/10] fs: Add new flag(FALLOC_FL_COLLAPSE_RANGE) for fallocate
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 15:41:20 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1402251525370.2380@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140223213606.GE4317@dastard>

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 09:06:25AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 01:37:43AM +0900, Namjae Jeon wrote:
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * There is no need to overlap collapse range with EOF, in which case
> > > +	 * it is effectively a truncate operation
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if ((mode & FALLOC_FL_COLLAPSE_RANGE) &&
> > > +	    (offset + len >= i_size_read(inode)))
> > > +		return -EINVAL;
> > > +
> > 
> > I wonder if we should just translate a collapse range that is
> > equivalent to a truncate operation to, in fact, be a truncate
> > operation?
> 
> Trying to collapse a range that extends beyond EOF, IMO, is likely
> to only happen if the DVR/NLE application is buggy. Hence I think
> that telling the application it is doing something that is likely to
> be wrong is better than silently truncating the file....

I do agree with Ted on this point.  This is not an xfs ioctl added
for one DVR/NLE application, it's a mode of a Linux system call.

We do not usually reject with an error when one system call happens
to ask for something which can already be accomplished another way;
nor nanny our callers.

It seems natural to me that COLLAPSE_RANGE should support beyond EOF;
unless that adds significantly to implementation difficulties?

Actually, is it even correct to fail at EOF?  What if fallocation
with FALLOC_FL_KEEP_SIZE was used earlier, to allocate beyond EOF:
shouldn't it be possible to shift that allocation down, along with
the EOF, rather than leave it behind as a stranded island?

Hugh

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       reply	other threads:[~2014-02-25 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <20140223213606.GE4317@dastard>
2014-02-25 23:41     ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2014-02-26  1:57       ` Dave Chinner
2014-02-26  5:25         ` Hugh Dickins
2014-02-26 10:04           ` Dave Chinner
2014-02-26 23:48             ` Hugh Dickins

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