From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 2/2] memcg: fix css reference leak and endless loop in mem_cgroup_iter
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 04:53:16 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1401230451490.1563@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140123110920.GE4911@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 23-01-14 02:42:58, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually both patches are needed. If we had only 2/2 then we wouldn't
> > > endless loop inside mem_cgroup_iter but we could still return root to
> > > caller all the time because mem_cgroup_iter_load would return NULL on
> > > css_tryget failure on the cached root. Or am I missing something that
> > > would prevent that?
> >
> > In theory I agree with you; and if you're missing something, I can't see
> > it either. But in practice, all my earlier testing of 3.12 and 3.13 was
> > just with 2/2, and I've tried without your 1/2 since: whereas I have hung
> > on 3.12 and 3.13 a convincing number of times without 2/2, I have never
> > hung on them with 2/2 without 1/2. In practice 1/2 appears essential
> > for 3.10 and 3.11, but irrelevant for 3.12 and 3.13.
> >
> > That could be easy to explain if there were a difference at the calling
> > end, shrink_zone(), between those releases: but I don't see that. Odd.
> > Either we're both missing something, or my testing is even less reliable
> > than I'd thought. But since I certainly don't dispute 1/2, it is merely
> > academic. Though still bothersome.
>
> I would assume that it is (sc->nr_reclaimed >= sc->nr_to_reclaim) that
> helps us to back off. SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX shouldn't be that hard to get to
> before css_offline racing part reparents all the memory.
But wouldn't explain why I could see it on 3.10,11 but not on 3.12,13.
Perhaps the 2/2 problem is a lot easier to hit than the 1/2 problem,
and I mistakenly expected to see the 1/2 problem in the timescale that
I saw the 2/2 problem; but I don't really think either is the case.
>
> Anyway, I would feel safer if this was pushed fixed although you haven't
> reporoduced it.
Absolutely.
> > Before Andrew sends these all off to Linus, I should admit that there's
> > probably a refinement still to come to the CSS_ONLINE one. I'm ashamed
> > to admit that I overlooked a much earlier comment from Greg Thelen, who
> > suggested that a memory barrier might be required.
>
> I was thinking about mem barrier while reviewing your patch but then I
> convinced myself that we should be safe also without using one when
> checking CSS_ONLINE.
> We have basically two situations.
> - online_css when we can miss it being set which is OK because
> we would miss a new empty group.
> - offline_css when we could still see the flag being set but
> then css_tryget would be already failing.
>
> So while all this is subtle and relies on cgroup core heavily I think we
> should be safe wrt. memory barriers.
>
> Or did you mean something else here?
Something else. My CSS_OFFLINE patch claims to prevent the iterator
from returning an uninitialized struct mem_cgroup: if that is to be
relied upon, then it needs to make sure that the initialization of
the mem_cgroup is visible to the caller before the CSS_OFFLINE flag.
kernel/cgroup.c online_css() does nowadays have an smp_wmb() buried
in its rcu_assign_pointer(); but it's not in the right place to
make this particular guarantee. And an smp_rmb() needed somewhere
too, if it doesn't already come for free somehow.
Hugh
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-23 12:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-14 1:50 [PATCH 1/3] mm/memcg: fix last_dead_count memory wastage Hugh Dickins
2014-01-14 1:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/memcg: fix endless iteration in reclaim Hugh Dickins
2014-01-14 13:27 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-14 13:34 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-14 14:26 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-14 20:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-01-15 9:58 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-15 12:17 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-15 21:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-01-16 8:17 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-16 15:22 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-16 19:15 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-01-17 15:41 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-21 5:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-01-21 8:34 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-21 10:45 ` [PATCH -mm 1/2] memcg: fix endless loop caused by mem_cgroup_iter Michal Hocko
2014-01-21 10:45 ` [PATCH -mm 2/2] memcg: fix css reference leak and endless loop in mem_cgroup_iter Michal Hocko
2014-01-21 19:42 ` Andrew Morton
2014-01-21 21:18 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-01-22 8:27 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-23 10:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-01-23 11:09 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-23 12:53 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2014-01-22 8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-14 1:54 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/memcg: iteration skip memcgs not yet fully initialized Hugh Dickins
2014-01-14 13:30 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-14 14:29 ` Tejun Heo
2014-01-15 8:20 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-15 8:21 ` Michal Hocko
2014-01-14 13:03 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/memcg: fix last_dead_count memory wastage Michal Hocko
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