From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Pawel Sikora <pluto@agmk.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com, arekm@pld-linux.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel 3.0: BUG: soft lockup: find_get_pages+0x51/0x110
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:51:00 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.00.1110171111150.2545@sister.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111016235442.GB25266@redhat.com>
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:30:09PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > mremap's down_write of mmap_sem, together with i_mmap_mutex/lock,
> > and pagetable locks, were good enough before page migration (with its
> > requirement that every migration entry be found) came in; and enough
> > while migration always held mmap_sem. But not enough nowadays, when
> > there's memory hotremove and compaction: anon_vma lock is also needed,
> > to make sure a migration entry is not dodging around behind our back.
>
> For things like migrate and split_huge_page, the anon_vma layer must
> guarantee the page is reachable by rmap walk at all times regardless
> if it's at the old or new address.
>
> This shall be guaranteed by the copy_vma called by move_vma well
> before move_page_tables/move_ptes can run.
>
> copy_vma obviously takes the anon_vma lock to insert the new "dst" vma
> into the anon_vma chains structures (vma_link does that). That before
> any pte can be moved.
>
> Because we keep two vmas mapped on both src and dst range, with
> different vma->vm_pgoff that is valid for the page (the page doesn't
> change its page->index) the page should always find _all_ its pte at
> any given time.
>
> There may be other variables at play like the order of insertion in
> the anon_vma chain matches our direction of copy and removal of the
> old pte. But I think the double locking of the PT lock should make the
> order in the anon_vma chain absolutely irrelevant (the rmap_walk
> obviously takes the PT lock too), and furthermore likely the
> anon_vma_chain insertion is favorable (the dst vma is inserted last
> and checked last). But it shouldn't matter.
Thanks a lot for thinking it over. I _almost_ agree with you, except
there's one aspect that I forgot to highlight in the patch comment:
remove_migration_pte() behaves as page_check_address() does by default,
it peeks to see if what it wants is there _before_ taking ptlock.
And therefore, I think, it is possible that during mremap move, the swap
pte is in neither of the locations it tries at the instant it peeks there.
We could put a stop to that: see plausible alternative patch below.
Though I have dithered from one to the other and back, I think on the
whole I still prefer the anon_vma locking in move_ptes(): we don't care
too deeply about the speed of mremap, but we do care about the speed of
exec, and this does add another lock/unlock there, but it will always
be uncontended; whereas the patch at the migration end could be adding
a contended and unnecessary lock.
Oh, I don't know which, you vote - if you now agree there is a problem.
I'll sign off the migrate.c one if you prefer it. But no hurry.
>
> Another thing could be the copy_vma vma_merge branch succeeding
> (returning not NULL) but I doubt we risk to fall into that one. For
> the rmap_walk to be always working on both the src and dst
> vma->vma_pgoff the pgoff must be different so we can't possibly be ok
> if there's just 1 vma covering the whole range. I exclude this could
> be the case because the pgoff passed to copy_vma is different than the
> vma->vm_pgoff given to copy_vma, so vma_merge can't possibly succeed.
>
> Yet another point to investigate is the point where we teardown the
> old vma and we leave the new vma generated by copy_vma
> established. That's apparently taken care of by do_munmap in move_vma
> so that shall be safe too as munmap is safe in the first place.
>
> Overall I don't think this patch is needed and it seems a noop.
>
> > It appears that Mel's a8bef8ff6ea1 "mm: migration: avoid race between
> > shift_arg_pages() and rmap_walk() during migration by not migrating
> > temporary stacks" was actually a workaround for this in the special
> > common case of exec's use of move_pagetables(); and we should probably
> > now remove that VM_STACK_INCOMPLETE_SETUP stuff as a separate cleanup.
>
> I don't think this patch can help with that, the problem of execve vs
> rmap_walk is that there's 1 single vma existing for src and dst
> virtual ranges while execve runs move_page_tables. So there is no
> possible way that rmap_walk will be guaranteed to find _all_ ptes
> mapping a page if there's just one vma mapping either the src or dst
> range while move_page_table runs. No addition of locking whatsoever
> can fix that bug because we miss a vma (well modulo locking that
> prevents rmap_walk to run at all, until we're finished with execve,
> which is more or less what VM_STACK_INCOMPLETE_SETUP does...).
>
> The only way is to fix this is prevent migrate (or any other rmap_walk
> user that requires 100% reliability from the rmap layer, for example
> swap doesn't require 100% reliability and can still run and gracefully
> fail at finding the pte) while we're moving pagetables in execve. And
> that's what Mel's above mentioned patch does.
Thanks for explaining, yes, you're right.
>
> The other way to fix that bug that I implemented was to do copy_vma in
> execve, so that we still have both src and dst ranges of
> move_page_tables covered by 2 (not 1) vma, each with the proper
> vma->vm_pgoff, so my approach fixed that bug as well (but requires a
> vma allocation in execve so it was dropped in favor of Mel's patch
> which is totally fine with as both approaches fixes the bug equally
> well, even if now we've to deal with this special case of sometime
> rmap_walk having false negatives if the vma_flags is set, and the
> important thing is that after VM_STACK_INCOMPLETE_SETUP has been
> cleared it won't ever be set again for the whole lifetime of the vma).
I think your two-vmas approach is more aesthetically pleasing (and
matches mremap), but can see that Mel's vmaflag hack^Htechnique ends up
more economical. It is a bit sad that we lose that all-pages-swappable
condition for unlimited args, for a brief moment, but I think no memory
allocations are made in that interval, so I guess it's fine.
Hugh
>
> I may be missing something, I did a short review so far, just so the
> patch doesn't get merged if not needed. I mean I think it needs a bit
> more looks on it... The fact the i_mmap_mutex was taken but the
> anon_vma lock was not taken (while in every other place they both are
> needed) certainly makes the patch look correct, but that's just a
> misleading coincidence I think.
>
--- 3.1-rc9/mm/migrate.c 2011-07-21 19:17:23.000000000 -0700
+++ linux/mm/migrate.c 2011-10-17 11:21:48.923826334 -0700
@@ -119,12 +119,6 @@ static int remove_migration_pte(struct p
goto out;
ptep = pte_offset_map(pmd, addr);
-
- if (!is_swap_pte(*ptep)) {
- pte_unmap(ptep);
- goto out;
- }
-
ptl = pte_lockptr(mm, pmd);
}
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[not found] <201110122012.33767.pluto@agmk.net>
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.2.00.1110131547550.1346@sister.anvils>
2011-10-13 23:30 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-16 16:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-16 23:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 18:51 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2011-10-17 22:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-19 7:43 ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-19 13:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-19 19:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-20 6:30 ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-20 6:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-21 6:54 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 7:35 ` Pawel Sikora
2011-10-20 12:51 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-20 18:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-21 6:22 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 8:07 ` Pawel Sikora
2011-10-21 9:07 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 21:36 ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-22 6:21 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-22 16:42 ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-20 9:11 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 15:56 ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-21 17:21 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 17:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-21 22:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-22 5:52 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-31 17:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 17:27 ` [PATCH] mremap: enforce rmap src/dst vma ordering in case of vma_merge succeeding in copy_vma Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01 12:07 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-01 14:35 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 7:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-04 14:34 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 15:59 ` Pawel Sikora
2011-11-05 2:21 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 19:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-04 20:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 0:09 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05 2:21 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-05 3:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 17:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-08 3:24 ` David Rientjes
2011-12-08 12:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-09 0:08 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-09 1:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-04 23:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 0:21 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05 0:59 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05 1:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 2:00 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-07 13:14 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-07 15:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-07 16:28 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-09 1:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-11 9:14 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-16 14:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-17 0:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-17 2:49 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-17 6:21 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-17 18:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-18 1:42 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-18 2:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-19 9:15 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-22 5:07 ` kernel 3.0: BUG: soft lockup: find_get_pages+0x51/0x110 Nai Xia
2011-10-31 16:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-17 3:02 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-17 3:09 ` Linus Torvalds
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