From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: jing xia <jing.xia.mail@gmail.com>,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
agk@redhat.com, dm-devel@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: dm bufio: Reduce dm_bufio_lock contention
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 08:47:52 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1806150832100.26650@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180615115547.GH24039@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 15-06-18 07:35:07, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> >
> > Because mempool uses it. Mempool uses allocations with "GFP_NOIO |
> > __GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_NOMEMALLOC | __GFP_NOWARN". An so dm-bufio uses
> > these flags too. dm-bufio is just a big mempool.
>
> This doesn't answer my question though. Somebody else is doing it is not
> an explanation. Prior to your 41c73a49df31 there was no GFP_NOIO
> allocation AFAICS. So why do you really need it now? Why cannot you
dm-bufio always used "GFP_NOIO | __GFP_NORETRY | __GFP_NOMEMALLOC |
__GFP_NOWARN" since the kernel 3.2 when it was introduced.
In the kernel 4.10, dm-bufio was changed so that it does GFP_NOWAIT
allocation, then drops the lock and does GFP_NOIO with the dropped lock
(because someone was likely experiencing the same issue that is reported
in this thread) - there are two commits that change it - 9ea61cac0 and
41c73a49df31.
> simply keep retrying GFP_NOWAIT with your own throttling?
>
> Note that I am not trying to say that 41c73a49df31, I am merely trying
> to understand why this blocking allocation is done in the first place.
>
> > If you argue that these flags are incorrect - then fix mempool_alloc.
>
> AFAICS there is no report about mempool_alloc stalling here. Maybe this
If the page allocator can stall dm-bufio, it can stall mempool_alloc as
well. dm-bufio is just bigger, so it will hit this bug sooner.
> is the same class of problem, honestly, I dunno. And I've already said
> that stalling __GFP_NORETRY might be a good way around that but that
> needs much more consideration and existing users examination. I am not
> aware anybody has done that. Doing changes like that based on a single
> user is certainly risky.
Why don't you set any rules how these flags should be used?
If you use GFP_NOIO | __GFP_NORETRY in your own code and blame other
people for doing so - you are as much evil as Linus, who praised people
for reverse-engineering hardware and blamed them for reverse-engineering
bitkeeper :-)
Mikulas
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2018-06-14 18:34 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-15 7:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-15 11:35 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-15 11:55 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-15 12:47 ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2018-06-15 13:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-18 22:11 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-19 10:43 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 1:17 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-22 9:01 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 9:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 12:52 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-22 13:05 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 18:57 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-25 9:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-25 13:53 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-25 14:14 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-25 14:42 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-25 14:57 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-29 2:43 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-29 8:29 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 12:44 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-22 13:10 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 18:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
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