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From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Mike Snitzer <msnitzer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] slab: introduce the flag SLAB_MINIMIZE_WASTE
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 15:22:03 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1803201510030.21066@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1803201250480.27540@nuc-kabylake>



On Tue, 20 Mar 2018, Christopher Lameter wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Mar 2018, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 01:25:09PM -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > The reason why we need this is that we are going to merge code that does
> > > block device deduplication (it was developed separatedly and sold as a
> > > commercial product), and the code uses block sizes that are not a power of
> > > two (block sizes 192K, 448K, 640K, 832K are used in the wild). The slab
> > > allocator rounds up the allocation to the nearest power of two, but that
> > > wastes a lot of memory. Performance of the solution depends on efficient
> > > memory usage, so we should minimize wasted as much as possible.
> >
> > The SLUB allocator also falls back to using the page (buddy) allocator
> > for allocations above 8kB, so this patch is going to have no effect on
> > slub.  You'd be better off using alloc_pages_exact() for this kind of
> > size, or managing your own pool of pages by using something like five
> > 192k blocks in a 1MB allocation.
> 
> The fallback is only effective for kmalloc caches. Manually created caches
> do not follow this rule.

Yes - the dm-bufio layer uses manually created caches.

> Note that you can already control the page orders for allocation and
> the objects per slab using
> 
> 	slub_min_order
> 	slub_max_order
> 	slub_min_objects
> 
> This is documented in linux/Documentation/vm/slub.txt
> 
> Maybe do the same thing for SLAB?

Yes, but I need to change it for a specific cache, not for all caches.

When the order is greater than 3 (PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER), the allocation 
becomes unreliable, thus it is a bad idea to increase slub_max_order 
system-wide.

Another problem with slub_max_order is that it would pad all caches to 
slub_max_order, even those that already have a power-of-two size (in that 
case, the padding is counterproductive).

BTW. the function "order_store" in mm/slub.c modifies the structure 
kmem_cache without taking any locks - is it a bug?

Mikulas

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-20 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-20 17:25 Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-20 17:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-20 17:54   ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-20 19:22     ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2018-03-20 20:42       ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-20 22:02         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 15:35           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 16:25             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 17:10               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-21 17:30               ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 17:39                 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 17:49                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-21 18:01                     ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 18:23                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 18:40                       ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 18:55                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 18:55                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-21 18:58                           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 19:25                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 18:36                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 18:57                   ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 19:19                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-21 20:09                       ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-21 20:37                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-23 15:10                           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-03-23 15:31                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-03-23 15:48                               ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-13  9:22                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-13 15:10                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-04-16 12:38                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-16 14:27                         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-04-16 14:37                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-16 14:46                             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-04-16 14:57                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-16 15:18                                 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-16 15:25                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-16 15:45                                     ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-16 19:36                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-16 19:53                                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-16 21:01                                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-17 14:40                                             ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-17 18:53                                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-17 21:42                                                 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-17 14:49                                           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-17 14:47                                         ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-16 19:32                               ` [PATCH RESEND] " Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-17 14:45                                 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-17 16:16                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-17 16:38                                     ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-17 19:09                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-17 17:26                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-17 19:13                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-17 19:06                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-18 14:55                                     ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-25 21:04                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-25 23:24                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-26 19:01                                           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-26 21:09                                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-27 16:41                                               ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-27 19:19                                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-13 17:01                                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-13 18:16                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-13 18:53                                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-26 18:51                                         ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-16 19:38                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-16 21:04                         ` Mikulas Patocka

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