From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Junaid Shahid <junaids@google.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, andreslc@google.com, gthelen@google.com,
vbabka@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dm ioctl: Restore __GFP_HIGH in copy_params()
Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 10:52:44 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1705221026430.20076@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170522120937.GI8509@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Mon, 22 May 2017, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 22-05-17 08:00:11, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 22 May 2017, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >
> > > > Sometimes, I/O to a device mapper device is blocked until the userspace
> > > > daemon dmeventd does some action (for example, when dm-mirror leg fails,
> > > > dmeventd needs to mark the leg as failed in the lvm metadata and then
> > > > reload the device).
> > > >
> > > > The dmeventd daemon mlocks itself in memory so that it doesn't generate
> > > > any I/O. But it must be able to call ioctls. __GFP_HIGH is there so that
> > > > the ioctls issued by dmeventd have higher chance of succeeding if some I/O
> > > > is blocked, waiting for dmeventd action. It reduces the possibility of
> > > > low-memory-deadlock, though it doesn't eliminate it entirely.
> > >
> > > So what happens if the memory reserves are depleted. Do we deadlock?
> >
> > Yes, it will deadlock.
>
> That would be more than unfortunate and begs for a different solution.
> The thing is that __GFP_HIGH is not propagated to all allocations in the
> vmalloc proper. E.g. page table allocations are hardcoded GFP_KERNEL.
For a typical device mapper use, the ioctl area is smaller than 4k, so the
vmalloc won't happen.
> > > Why is OOM killer insufficient to allow the further progress?
> >
> > I don't know if the OOM killer will or won't be triggered in this
> > situation, it depends on the people who wrote the OOM killer.
>
> I am not sure I understand. OOM killer is invoked for _all_ allocations
> <= PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER that do not have __GFP_NORETRY as long as the
> OOM killer is not disabled (oom_killer_disable) and that only happens
> from the PM suspend path which makes sure that no userspace is active at
> the time. AFAIU this is a userspace triggered path and so the later
> shouldn't apply to it and GFP_KERNEL should be therefore sufficient.
> Relying to a portion of memory reserves to prevent from deadlock seems
> fundamentaly broken to me.
>
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
The lvm2 was designed this way - it is broken, but there is not much that
can be done about it - fixing this would mean major rewrite. The only
thing we can do about it is to lower the deadlock probability with
__GFP_HIGH (or PF_MEMALLOC that was used some times ago).
Mikulas
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Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20170518185040.108293-1-junaids@google.com>
2017-05-18 19:00 ` Junaid Shahid
[not found] ` <20170518190406.GB2330@dhcp22.suse.cz>
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.10.1705181338090.132717@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
2017-05-19 2:50 ` Junaid Shahid
2017-05-19 7:46 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-19 23:43 ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-05-22 9:37 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-22 12:00 ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-05-22 12:09 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-22 14:52 ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2017-05-22 15:03 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-22 18:04 ` Mike Snitzer
2017-05-22 20:35 ` David Rientjes
2017-05-22 23:35 ` Mike Snitzer
2017-05-23 6:05 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-23 16:44 ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-05-25 8:58 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-23 6:49 ` Michal Hocko
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