From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] thp, mm: locking tail page is a bug
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:59:10 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1307181254520.1047@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130718020414.GA1786@redhat.com>
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:58:13PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > > On 07/17/2013 02:09 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > lock_page() is a pretty commonly called function, and I assume quite a
> > > > lot of people run with CONFIG_DEBUG_VM=y.
> > > >
> > > > Is the overhead added by this patch really worthwhile?
> > >
> > > I always thought of it as a developer-only thing. I don't think any of
> > > the big distros turn it on by default.
> >
> > That's how I think of it too (and the problem is often that too few mm
> > developers turn it on); but Dave Jones did confirm last November that
> > Fedora turns it on.
> >
> > I believe Fedora turns it on to help us all, and wouldn't mind a mere
> > VM_BUG_ON(PageTail(page)) in __lock_page() if it's helpful to Kirill.
> >
> > But if VM_BUG_ONs become expensive, I do think it's for Fedora to
> > turn off CONFIG_DEBUG_VM, rather than for mm developers to avoid it.
>
> I'm ambivalent about whether we keep it on or off, we have no shortage
> of bugs to fix already, though I think as mentioned above, very few people
> actually enable it, so we're going to lose a lot of testing.
>
> Another idea, perhaps is an extra config option for more expensive debug options ?
I can't think of any expensive debug under CONFIG_DEBUG_VM at present,
just a little overhead as you'd expect. I don't think checking a page
flag or two in __lock_page() will change that much.
We do tend to make specific debug options for the more expensive ones,
rather than a generic heavy debug option. For example CONFIG_DEBUG_VM_RB,
which checks an mm's entire vma tree whenever a change is made there.
We could group the heavy debug options, like that and CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING,
into a menu of their own; but I've no appetite for such a change myself!
Hugh
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-18 19:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-15 10:47 [PATCH, REBASED 0/8] Transparent huge page cache: phase 0, prep work Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm: drop actor argument of do_generic_file_read() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-16 3:31 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-07-16 3:31 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-07-16 19:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-07-16 23:13 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 2/8] thp, mm: avoid PageUnevictable on active/inactive lru lists Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 3/8] thp: account anon transparent huge pages into NR_ANON_PAGES Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm: cleanup add_to_page_cache_locked() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 13:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 5/8] thp, mm: locking tail page is a bug Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-17 21:09 ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-17 22:43 ` Dave Hansen
2013-07-18 0:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-07-18 2:04 ` Dave Jones
2013-07-18 19:59 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2013-07-17 22:45 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 6/8] thp: move maybe_pmd_mkwrite() out of mk_huge_pmd() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 7/8] thp: do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page() cleanup Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 8/8] thp: consolidate code between handle_mm_fault() and do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page() Kirill A. Shutemov
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2013-06-11 15:35 [PATCH 0/8] Transparent huge page cache: phase 0, prep work Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-06-11 15:35 ` [PATCH 5/8] thp, mm: locking tail page is a bug Kirill A. Shutemov
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