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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] thp, mm: locking tail page is a bug
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:59:10 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1307181254520.1047@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130718020414.GA1786@redhat.com>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:58:13PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>  > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Dave Hansen wrote:
>  > > On 07/17/2013 02:09 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>  > > > lock_page() is a pretty commonly called function, and I assume quite a
>  > > > lot of people run with CONFIG_DEBUG_VM=y.
>  > > > 
>  > > > Is the overhead added by this patch really worthwhile?
>  > > 
>  > > I always thought of it as a developer-only thing.  I don't think any of
>  > > the big distros turn it on by default.
>  > 
>  > That's how I think of it too (and the problem is often that too few mm
>  > developers turn it on); but Dave Jones did confirm last November that
>  > Fedora turns it on.
>  > 
>  > I believe Fedora turns it on to help us all, and wouldn't mind a mere
>  > VM_BUG_ON(PageTail(page)) in __lock_page() if it's helpful to Kirill.
>  > 
>  > But if VM_BUG_ONs become expensive, I do think it's for Fedora to
>  > turn off CONFIG_DEBUG_VM, rather than for mm developers to avoid it.
> 
> I'm ambivalent about whether we keep it on or off, we have no shortage
> of bugs to fix already, though I think as mentioned above, very few people
> actually enable it, so we're going to lose a lot of testing.
> 
> Another idea, perhaps is an extra config option for more expensive debug options ?

I can't think of any expensive debug under CONFIG_DEBUG_VM at present,
just a little overhead as you'd expect.  I don't think checking a page
flag or two in __lock_page() will change that much.

We do tend to make specific debug options for the more expensive ones,
rather than a generic heavy debug option.  For example CONFIG_DEBUG_VM_RB,
which checks an mm's entire vma tree whenever a change is made there.

We could group the heavy debug options, like that and CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING,
into a menu of their own; but I've no appetite for such a change myself!

Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-18 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-15 10:47 [PATCH, REBASED 0/8] Transparent huge page cache: phase 0, prep work Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm: drop actor argument of do_generic_file_read() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-16  3:31   ` Wanpeng Li
2013-07-16  3:31   ` Wanpeng Li
2013-07-16 19:10   ` Matthew Wilcox
2013-07-16 23:13     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 2/8] thp, mm: avoid PageUnevictable on active/inactive lru lists Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 3/8] thp: account anon transparent huge pages into NR_ANON_PAGES Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm: cleanup add_to_page_cache_locked() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 13:55   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 5/8] thp, mm: locking tail page is a bug Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-17 21:09   ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-17 22:43     ` Dave Hansen
2013-07-18  0:58       ` Hugh Dickins
2013-07-18  2:04         ` Dave Jones
2013-07-18 19:59           ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2013-07-17 22:45     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 6/8] thp: move maybe_pmd_mkwrite() out of mk_huge_pmd() Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 7/8] thp: do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page() cleanup Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-07-15 10:47 ` [PATCH 8/8] thp: consolidate code between handle_mm_fault() and do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page() Kirill A. Shutemov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-06-11 15:35 [PATCH 0/8] Transparent huge page cache: phase 0, prep work Kirill A. Shutemov
2013-06-11 15:35 ` [PATCH 5/8] thp, mm: locking tail page is a bug Kirill A. Shutemov

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