From: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@suse.cz>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Improving OOM killer
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:50:50 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1002041044080.15395@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1002031600490.27918@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, David Rientjes wrote:
> > > /* Forkbombs get penalized 10% of available RAM */
> > > if (forkcount > 500)
> > > points += 100;
> >
> > As far as I'm concerned, this is a huge improvement over the current code
> > (and, incidentally :), quite close to what I originally wanted). I'd be
> > willing to test it in few real-world desktop cases if you provide a patch.
[ ... ]
> Do you have any comments about the forkbomb detector or its threshold that
> I've put in my heuristic? I think detecting these scenarios is still an
> important issue that we need to address instead of simply removing it from
> consideration entirely.
Why does OOM killer care about forkbombs *at all*?
If we really want kernel to detect forkbombs (*), we'd have to establish
completely separate infrastructure for that (with its own knobs for tuning
and possibilities of disabling it completely).
The task of OOM killer is to find the process that caused the system
to run out of memory, and wipe it, it's as simple as that.
The connection to forkbombs seems to be so loose that I don't see it.
(*) How is forkbomb even defined? Where does the magic constant in
'forkcount > 500' come from? If your aim is to penalize server processes
on very loaded web/database servers, then this is probably correct
aproach. Otherwise, I don't seem to see the point.
Thanks,
--
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-04 9:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-01 22:02 Lubos Lunak
2010-02-01 23:53 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-02 21:10 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-03 1:41 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 1:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-03 2:12 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 2:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-03 2:36 ` [patch] sysctl: clean up vm related variable declarations David Rientjes
2010-02-03 8:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-03 8:17 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 22:54 ` Improving OOM killer Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04 0:00 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 7:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-03 9:40 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 8:57 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 12:10 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-03 12:25 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 15:00 ` Minchan Kim
2010-02-03 16:06 ` Minchan Kim
2010-02-03 21:22 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-03 14:49 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-03 17:01 ` Balbir Singh
2010-02-03 18:58 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 19:29 ` Frans Pop
2010-02-03 19:52 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 20:12 ` Frans Pop
2010-02-03 20:26 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-03 22:55 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04 0:05 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04 0:18 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-04 21:48 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04 22:06 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-04 22:14 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-10 20:54 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 21:10 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-10 21:29 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 22:18 ` Alan Cox
2010-02-10 22:31 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-11 9:50 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04 22:31 ` Frans Pop
2010-02-04 22:53 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04 7:58 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-04 21:34 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-10 20:54 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 21:09 ` Rik van Riel
2010-02-10 21:34 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-10 22:25 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-11 10:16 ` Lubos Lunak
2010-02-11 21:17 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-04 9:50 ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2010-02-04 21:39 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-05 7:35 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-10 3:10 ` David Rientjes
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