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From: Jesper Juhl <jj@chaosbits.net>
To: Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, avi@redhat.com, aarcange@redhat.com,
	chrisw@redhat.com, riel@redhat.com, jeremy@goop.org,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, hugh@veritas.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	yaniv@redhat.com, dmonakhov@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:22:26 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0904022114040.4265@swampdragon.chaosbits.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1238457560-7613-1-git-send-email-ieidus@redhat.com>

Hi,

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Izik Eidus wrote:

> KSM is a linux driver that allows dynamicly sharing identical memory
> pages between one or more processes.
> 
> Unlike tradtional page sharing that is made at the allocation of the
> memory, ksm do it dynamicly after the memory was created.
> Memory is periodically scanned; identical pages are identified and
> merged.
> The sharing is unnoticeable by the process that use this memory.
> (the shared pages are marked as readonly, and in case of write
> do_wp_page() take care to create new copy of the page)
> 
> To find identical pages ksm use algorithm that is split into three
> primery levels:
> 
> 1) Ksm will start scan the memory and will calculate checksum for each
>    page that is registred to be scanned.
>    (In the first round of the scanning, ksm would only calculate
>     this checksum for all the pages)
> 

One question;

Calcolating a checksum is a fine way to find pages that are "likely to be 
identical", but there is no guarantee that two pages with the same 
checksum really are identical - there *will* be checksum collisions 
eventually. So, I really hope that your implementation actually checks 
that two pages that it find that have identical checksums really are 100% 
identical by comparing them bit by bit before throwing one away.
If you rely only on a checksum then eventually a user will get bitten by a 
checksum collision and, in the best case, something will crash, and in the 
worst case, data will silently be corrupted.

Do you rely only on the checksum or do you actually compare pages to check 
they are 100% identical before sharing?

I must admit that I have not read through the patch to find the answer, I 
just read your description and became concerned.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-02 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-30 23:59 Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] MMU_NOTIFIERS: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59   ` [PATCH 2/4] add page_wrprotect(): write protecting page Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59     ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59       ` [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Izik Eidus
2009-03-31  2:12         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 12:24           ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 13:31             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 14:25               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 14:37                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 15:02                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 15:09                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 15:18                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 15:54                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 16:25                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 16:51                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 17:11                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-01 22:54                               ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02  0:31                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02  0:48                                   ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02  1:22                               ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02  2:36                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02  5:31                                   ` [PATCH 5/4] update ksm userspace interfaces Chris Wright
2009-04-02 13:32                                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 15:20                                       ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:56                                       ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:55                                         ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-03 10:16                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 10:49                                         ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-03 11:08                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 16:22                                             ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 14:41                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 15:12                                       ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:25                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02  5:48                                   ` [PATCH 4/4 alternative userspace] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Chris Wright
2009-04-02  5:57                                     ` Bert Wesarg
2009-04-02  5:59                                       ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02  6:00                                         ` Bert Wesarg
2009-04-02  7:09                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  7:24                                   ` [PATCH 4/4] " Avi Kivity
2009-04-02  9:38                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 11:23                                   ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31  2:15         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-31 12:21           ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 23:57             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-01 17:28               ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 20:52         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31  1:42 ` [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 12:33   ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 19:22 ` Jesper Juhl [this message]
2009-04-02 19:38   ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 19:39   ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 19:49     ` Jesper Juhl
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-11-11 13:21 Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 18:30 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 18:48   ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 19:08     ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 19:11     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 19:18       ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 19:32         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-11 19:52           ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 20:08             ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 19:29       ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-11 19:55       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-11 19:07   ` Izik Eidus
2008-11-11 19:20     ` Andrew Morton

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