From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Larry H." <research@subreption.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pageexec@freemail.hu
Subject: Re: Security fix for remapping of page 0 (was [PATCH] Change ZERO_SIZE_PTR to point at unmapped space)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:12:21 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906031109150.4880@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090603180037.GB18561@oblivion.subreption.com>
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Larry H. wrote:
>
> Are you saying that a kernel exploit can't be leveraged by means of
> runtime code injection for example?
No. I'm sayng that sane people don't get hung up about every little
possibility.
Why are security people always so damn black-and-white? In most other
areas, such people are called "crazy" or "stupid", but the security people
seem to call them "normal".
The fact, the NULL pointer attack is neither easy nor common. It's
perfectly reasonable to say "we'll allow mmap at virtual address zero".
Disallowing NULL pointer mmap's is one small tool in your toolchest, and
not at all all-consumingly important or fundamental. It's just one more
detail.
Get over it. Don't expect everybody to be as extremist as you apparently
are.
Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-03 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-30 19:28 [PATCH] Change ZERO_SIZE_PTR to point at unmapped space Larry H.
2009-05-30 22:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-30 23:00 ` Larry H.
2009-05-31 2:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-31 2:21 ` Larry H.
2009-06-02 15:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-02 20:34 ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 14:50 ` Security fix for remapping of page 0 (was [PATCH] Change ZERO_SIZE_PTR to point at unmapped space) Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 15:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 15:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 15:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:14 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:24 ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 16:22 ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:32 ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 15:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-06-03 15:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 16:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:28 ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 16:36 ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-03 16:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 17:16 ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 17:31 ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 17:24 ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 17:21 ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 22:52 ` James Morris
2009-06-03 17:29 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 18:00 ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 18:12 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-06-03 18:39 ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 18:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 18:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 19:11 ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-03 19:14 ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 19:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 19:51 ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 20:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 20:16 ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 20:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-04 2:41 ` James Morris
2009-06-03 19:21 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 19:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 21:07 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 19:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 19:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 20:00 ` pageexec
2009-06-03 19:41 ` pageexec
2009-06-07 10:29 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-30 22:32 ` [PATCH] Change ZERO_SIZE_PTR to point at unmapped space Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-30 22:51 ` Larry H.
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