From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
peterz@infradead.org, fweisbec@gmail.com, tardyp@gmail.com,
mingo@elte.hu, acme@redhat.com, tzanussi@gmail.com,
paulus@samba.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
arjan@infradead.org, ziga.mahkovec@gmail.com,
davem@davemloft.net, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
cl@linux-foundation.org, tj@kernel.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com
Subject: Re: Unexpected splice "always copy" behavior observed
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:31:25 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005191220370.23538@i5.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100519191439.GA2845@Krystal>
On Wed, 19 May 2010, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>
> Good point. This discard flag might do the trick and let us keep things simple.
> The major concern here is to keep the page cache disturbance relatively low.
> Which of new page allocation or stealing back the page has the lowest overhead
> would have to be determined with benchmarks.
We could probably make it easier somehow to do the writeback and discard
thing, but I have had _very_ good experiences with even a rather trivial
file writer that basically used (iirc) 8MB windows, and the logic was very
trivial:
- before writing a new 8M window, do "start writeback"
(SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE) on the previous window, and do
a wait (SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_AFTER) on the window before that.
in fact, in its simplest form, you can do it like this (this is from my
"overwrite disk images" program that I use on old disks):
for (index = 0; index < max_index ;index++) {
if (write(fd, buffer, BUFSIZE) != BUFSIZE)
break;
/* This won't block, but will start writeout asynchronously */
sync_file_range(fd, index*BUFSIZE, BUFSIZE, SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE);
/* This does a blocking write-and-wait on any old ranges */
if (index)
sync_file_range(fd, (index-1)*BUFSIZE, BUFSIZE, SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_BEFORE|SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE|SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_AFTER);
}
and even if you don't actually do a discard (maybe we should add a
SYNC_FILE_RANGE_DISCARD bit, right now you'd need to do a separate
fadvise(FADV_DONTNEED) to throw it out) the system behavior is pretty
nice, because the heavy writer gets good IO performance _and_ leaves only
easy-to-free pages around after itself.
Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-19 19:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-18 15:34 Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-18 15:51 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-18 15:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-18 16:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-18 16:13 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-18 15:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-18 16:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-18 16:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-19 6:31 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 14:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-19 14:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-19 14:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-19 15:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-19 15:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-19 15:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-05-19 15:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-19 15:55 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 16:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-19 16:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-05-19 15:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-19 16:27 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 19:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-19 19:31 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-05-19 21:49 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-20 0:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-20 1:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-05-20 14:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-19 20:59 ` Rick Sherm
2010-05-19 15:17 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 15:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-19 15:44 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 15:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-05-19 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-19 15:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-05-19 16:01 ` Linus Torvalds
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