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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 10:34:03 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005051007140.27218@i5.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100505155454.GT20979@csn.ul.ie>



On Wed, 5 May 2010, Mel Gorman wrote:
> 
> I'm still thinking of the ordering but one possibility would be to use a mutex
> similar to mm_all_locks_mutex to force the serialisation of rmap_walk instead
> of the trylock-and-retry. That way, the ordering wouldn't matter. It would
> slow migration if multiple processes are migrating pages by some unknowable
> quantity but it would avoid livelocking.

Hmm.. An idea is starting to take form..

How about something like this?

 - the lock is per-anon_vma

BUT

 - you always lock the _deepest_ anon_vma you can find.

That means just a single lock. And the "deepest" anon_vma is well-defined 
for all anon_vma's, because each same_anon_vma chain is always rooted in 
the original anon_vma that caused it.

>From the vma, it's simply
	avc = list_entry(vma->anon_vma_chain.prev, struct anon_vma_chain, same_vma);
	anon_vma = avc->anon_vma;

and once you take that lock, you know you've gotten the lock for all 
chains related to that page. We _know_ that every single vma that is 
associated with that anon_vma must have a chain that eventually ends in 
that entry.

So I wonder if the locking can't be just something like this:

   struct anon_vma *lock_anon_vma_root(struct page *page)
   {
	struct anon_vma *anon_vma, *root;

	rcu_read_lock();
	anon_vma = page_anon_vma(page);
	if (!anon_vma)
		return ret;
	/* Make sure the anon_vma 'same_anon_vma' list is stable! */
	spin_lock(&anon_vma->lock);
	root = NULL;
	if (!list_empty(&anon_vma->head)) {
		struct anon_vma_chain *avc;
		struct vm_area_struct *vma;
		struct anon_vma *root;
		avc = list_first_entry(&anon_vma->head, struct anon_vma_chain, same_anon_vma);
		vma = avc->vma;
		avc = list_entry(vma->anon_vma_chain.prev, struct anon_vma_chain, same_vma);
		root = avc->anon_vma;
	}
	/* We already locked it - anon_vma _was_ the root */
	if (root == anon_vma)
		return root;
	spin_unlock(&anon_vma->lock);
	if (root) {
		spin_lock(&root->lock);
		return root;
	}
	rcu_read_unlock();
	return NULL;
   }

and

   void unlock_anon_vma_root(struct anon_vma *root)
   {
	spin_unlock(&root->lock);
	rcu_read_unlock();
   }

or something. I agree that the above is not _beautiful_, and it's not 
exactly simple, but it does seem to have the absolutely huge advantage 
that it is a nice O(1) thing that only ever takes a single lock and has no 
nesting. And while the code looks complicated, it's based on a pretty 
simple constraint on the anon_vma's that we already require (ie that all 
related anon_vma chains have to end up at the same root anon_vma).

In other words: _any_ vma that is associated with _any_ related anon_vma 
will always end up feeding up to the same root anon_vma.

I do think other people should think this through. And it needs a comment 
that really explains all this.

(And the code above is written in my email editor - it has not been 
tested, compiled, or anythign else. It may _look_ like real code, but 
think of it as pseudo-code where the explanation for the code is more 
important than the exact details.

NOTE NOTE NOTE! In particular, I think that the 'rcu_read_lock()' and the 
actual lookup of the anon_vma (ie the "anon_vma = page_anon_vma(page)") 
part should probably be in the callers. I put it in the pseudo-code itself 
to just show how you go from a 'struct page' to the "immediate" anon_vma 
it is associated with, and from that to the "root" anon_vma of the whole 
chain.

And maybe I'm too clever for myself, and I've made some fundamental 
mistake that means that the above doesn't work.

			Linus

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-05 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-05 13:14 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V5 Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 13:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 14:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 14:56     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 15:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 15:54         ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 16:13           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-05 19:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-05 19:57               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-21  0:27               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-06 10:37             ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 17:34           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-05-05 17:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 18:14             ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 18:34               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 11:03                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 13:40             ` Rik van Riel
2010-05-06 13:45               ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 17:53         ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 18:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 18:17             ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06  0:22             ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06  0:42               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 10:02                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 14:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 14:25                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06  9:47               ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-06  9:54                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 10:01                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-06 10:10                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 14:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 15:59                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-06  7:38   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-06  9:46     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:52       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-07  5:49         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-05 13:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,migration: Fix race between shift_arg_pages and rmap_walk by guaranteeing rmap_walk finds PTEs created within the temporary stack Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:33 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V6 Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:44   ` Rik van Riel
2010-05-06 15:51     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 17:07     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:20 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V7 Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-05-07  0:56   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-07 16:26     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-08 15:39   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-08 17:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-08 18:04       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-08 19:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-09 19:23     ` Mel Gorman

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