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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	guichaz@gmail.com, Alex Khesin <alexk@google.com>,
	Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>,
	Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>
Subject: Re: ftruncate-mmap: pages are lost after writing to mmaped file.
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:02:03 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903261559200.3032@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090326084723.GB8207@skywalker>



On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> 
> >page faults doing allocation can take a
> > *long* time 
> 
> That is true

Btw, this is actually a feature rather than a bug.

We want to slow down the writer, which is why we also do dirty page 
balancing when marking a page dirty. 

Basically, if block allocation is a performance problem, then it should be 
a performance problem that is attributed to the process that _causes_ it, 
rather than to some random poor unrelated process that then later ends up 
writing the page out because it wants to use some memory.

This is why tracking dirty pages is so important. Yes, it also avoids 
various nasty overcommit situations, but the whole "make it hurt for the 
person responsible, rather than a random innocent bystander" is the more 
important part of it. 

			Linus

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-26 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-18 19:44 Ying Han
2009-03-18 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-18 22:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-18 23:18     ` Ying Han
2009-03-18 23:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-18 23:54         ` Ying Han
2009-03-19 15:48           ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 16:16             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-19 16:36               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 16:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 16:34               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 16:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 17:03                   ` Jan Kara
2009-03-19 17:06                     ` Jan Kara
2009-03-19 20:05                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 20:21                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 21:17                     ` Ying Han
2009-03-19 22:16                     ` Jan Kara
2009-03-19 16:46             ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24  7:44               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 10:27                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 10:32                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-24 15:35                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-26 18:29                     ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26  0:03                   ` Ying Han
2009-03-24 12:39                 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 12:55                   ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 13:26                     ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 14:01                       ` Chris Mason
2009-03-24 14:07                         ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26  8:18                           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-03-24 14:30                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 14:47                         ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 14:56                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-24 15:29                             ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 20:14                               ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-26  8:47                               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-03-26 11:37                                 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26 23:02                                 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-03-24 15:03                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 15:48                             ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 17:35                               ` Jan Kara
2009-04-01 22:36                                 ` Ying Han
2009-04-02 10:11                                   ` Jan Kara
2009-04-02 11:24                                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 11:34                                     ` Jan Kara
2009-04-02 15:51                                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 17:44                                         ` Ying Han
2009-04-02 22:52                                           ` Ying Han
2009-04-02 23:39                                             ` Jan Kara
2009-04-03  0:25                                               ` Ying Han
2009-04-03  1:29                                               ` Ying Han
2009-04-03  9:41                                                 ` Jan Kara
2009-04-03 21:34                                                   ` Ying Han
2009-04-03  0:13                                     ` Ying Han
2009-03-27 20:35                 ` Ying Han
2009-03-20  0:34     ` Ying Han
2009-03-20  0:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-20  7:00         ` Ying Han
2009-03-25 23:15     ` Ying Han

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