From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@novell.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [aarcange@redhat.com: [PATCH] fork vs gup(-fast) fix]
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:01:06 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903170950410.3082@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903170929180.3082@localhost.localdomain>
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> So yes - I had expected our VM to be sane, and have a writable private
> page _stay_ writable (in the absense of fork() it should never turn into a
> COW page), but the swapout+swapin code can result in a rw page that turns
> read-only in order to catch a swap cache invalidation.
>
> Good catch. Let me think about it.
Btw, I think this is actually a pre-existing bug regardless of my patch.
That same swapout+swapin problem seems to lose the dirty bit on a O_DIRECT
write - exactly for the same reason. When swapin turns the page into a
read-only page in order to keep the physical page in the swap cache, the
write to the physical page (that was gotten by get_user_pages() earlier)
will bypass all that.
So the get_user_pages() users will then write to the page, but the next
time we swap things out, if nobody _else_ wrote to it, that write will be
lost because we'll just drop the page (it was in the swap cache!) even
though it had changed data on it.
My patch changed the schenario a bit (split page rather than dropped
page), but the fundamental cause seems to be the same - the swap cache
code very much depends on writes to the _virtual_ address.
Or am I missing something?
Linus
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2009-03-11 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 17:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-11 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 18:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-11 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 19:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-11 20:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 20:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 20:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-11 21:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 21:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-11 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 22:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 22:22 ` Davide Libenzi
2009-03-11 22:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-14 5:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-11 20:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-14 5:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-14 5:20 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 16:01 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-16 16:23 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 16:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-16 16:50 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-16 17:19 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-16 18:02 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 18:05 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 18:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-16 18:33 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 5:44 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 18:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-16 18:29 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 5:42 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-17 5:58 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 18:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-16 18:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-16 23:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-18 2:04 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-22 12:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-23 0:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-23 16:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-23 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 5:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-24 13:43 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 10:52 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
[not found] ` <200904022307.12043.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
2009-04-03 3:49 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-17 0:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 0:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-17 12:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-17 16:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-03-17 17:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-17 17:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 18:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-17 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 19:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-17 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 19:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-12 5:36 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 16:23 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 17:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-12 17:20 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 17:23 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 18:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-12 18:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-13 16:09 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-13 19:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-14 4:59 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 13:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-16 16:01 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-14 4:46 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-14 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-11 18:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-11 18:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-11 19:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-11 19:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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