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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	shaggy@austin.ibm.com, axboe@kernel.dk, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2]: introduce fast_gup
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:25:30 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0804170814090.2879@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1208444605.7115.2.camel@twins>


On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> Would this be sufficient to address that comment's conern?

It would be nicer to just add a "native_get_pte()" to x86, to match the 
already-existing "native_set_pte()".

And that "barrier()" should b "smp_rmb()". They may be the same code 
sequence, but from a conceptual angle, "smp_rmb()" makes a whole lot more 
sense.

Finally, I don't think that comment is correct in the first place. It's 
not that simple. The thing is, even *with* the memory barrier in place, we 
may have:

	CPU#1			CPU#2
	=====			=====

	fast_gup:
	 - read low word

				native_set_pte_present:
				 - set low word to 0
				 - set high word to new value

	 - read high word

				- set low word to new value

and so you read a low word that is associated with a *different* high 
word! Notice?

So trivial memory ordering is _not_ enough.

So I think the code literally needs to be something like this

	#ifdef CONFIG_X86_PAE

	static inline pte_t native_get_pte(pte_t *ptep)
	{
		pte_t pte;

	retry:
		pte.pte_low = ptep->pte_low;
		smp_rmb();
		pte.pte_high = ptep->pte_high;
		smp_rmb();
		if (unlikely(pte.pte_low != ptep->pte_low)
			goto retry;
		return pte;
	}

	#else

	#define native_get_pte(ptep) (*(ptep))

	#endif

but I have admittedly not really thought it fully through.

		Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-17 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-28  2:54 [patch 0/2]: lockless get_user_pages patchset Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  2:55 ` [patch 1/2]: x86: implement pte_special Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:23   ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:31     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:44       ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:04         ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:09           ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:15             ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:16               ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:19                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:17               ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:00 ` [patch 2/2]: introduce fast_gup Nick Piggin
2008-03-28 10:01   ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-17 15:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 15:25     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-04-17 16:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:18         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 16:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:40             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 17:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 18:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22  3:14                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-18  6:31                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-04-18 14:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-18  9:58         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-21 12:00       ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-21 12:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-21 13:26           ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-21 14:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-22  3:23               ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-22  7:19                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-22  8:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22  9:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-22  9:46     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 18:33       ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-05-15  1:13         ` Nick Piggin

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