From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
clameter@sgi.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: larger default page sizes...
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:59:17 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0803260854350.2775@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18409.56843.909298.717089@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Paul Mackerras wrote:
>
> So the improvement in the user time is almost all due to the reduced
> TLB misses (as one would expect). For the system time, using 64k
> pages in the VM reduces it by about 21%, and using 64k hardware pages
> reduces it by another 30%. So the reduction in kernel overhead is
> significant but not as large as the impact of reducing TLB misses.
I realize that getting the POWER people to accept that they have been
total morons when it comes to VM for the last three decades is hard, but
somebody in the POWER hardware design camp should (a) be told and (b) be
really ashamed of themselves.
Is this a POWER6 or what? Becasue 21% overhead from TLB handling on
something like gcc shows that some piece of hardware is absolute crap.
May I suggest people inside IBM try to fix this some day, and in the
meantime people outside should probably continue to buy Intel/AMD CPU's
until the others can get their act together.
Linus
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Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-21 6:17 [00/14] Virtual Compound Page Support V3 Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [01/14] vcompound: Return page array on vunmap Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [02/14] vcompound: pageflags: Add PageVcompound() Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [03/14] vmallocinfo: Support display of vcompound for a virtual compound page Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 7:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-21 17:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [04/14] vcompound: Core piece Christoph Lameter
2008-03-22 12:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-03-24 18:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [05/14] vcompound: Debugging aid Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [06/14] vcompound: Virtual fallback for sparsemem Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [07/14] vcompound: bit waitqueue support Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [08/14] vcompound: Fallback for zone wait table Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [09/14] vcompound: crypto: Fallback for temporary order 2 allocation Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [10/14] vcompound: slub: Use for buffer to correlate allocation addresses Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [11/14] vcompound: Fallbacks for order 1 stack allocations on IA64 and x86 Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 7:25 ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-21 17:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 19:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-21 19:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 17:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 21:57 ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 18:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 20:37 ` larger default page sizes David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 21:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 21:43 ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 17:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 23:22 ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 23:41 ` Peter Chubb
2008-03-25 23:49 ` David Miller, Peter Chubb
2008-03-26 0:25 ` Peter Chubb
2008-03-26 0:31 ` David Miller, Peter Chubb
2008-03-26 0:34 ` David Mosberger-Tang
2008-03-26 0:39 ` David Miller, David Mosberger-Tang
2008-03-26 0:57 ` Peter Chubb
2008-03-26 4:16 ` John Marvin
2008-03-26 4:36 ` David Miller, John Marvin
2008-03-24 21:25 ` Luck, Tony
2008-03-24 21:46 ` David Miller, Luck, Tony
2008-03-25 3:29 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-25 4:15 ` David Miller, Paul Mackerras
2008-03-25 11:50 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-25 23:32 ` David Miller, Paul Mackerras
2008-03-25 23:49 ` Luck, Tony
2008-03-26 0:16 ` David Miller, Luck, Tony
2008-03-26 15:54 ` Nish Aravamudan
2008-03-26 17:05 ` Luck, Tony
2008-03-26 18:54 ` Mel Gorman
2008-03-25 12:05 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-25 21:27 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-26 5:24 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-26 15:59 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-03-27 1:08 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-26 17:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-26 23:21 ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-27 3:00 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-25 18:27 ` Dave Hansen
2008-03-24 21:13 ` [11/14] vcompound: Fallbacks for order 1 stack allocations on IA64 and x86 Luck, Tony
2008-03-25 17:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 19:09 ` Luck, Tony
2008-03-25 19:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 22:30 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-24 19:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 7:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-25 17:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 18:07 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [12/14] vcompound: Avoid vmalloc in e1000 driver Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 17:27 ` Kok, Auke
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [13/14] vcompound: Use vcompound for swap_map Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 21:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-21 21:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 19:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 7:52 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-25 17:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-25 17:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-25 17:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 6:17 ` [14/14] vcompound: Avoid vmalloc for ehash_locks Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 7:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-21 7:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 7:31 ` David Miller, Christoph Lameter
2008-03-21 7:42 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-21 7:31 ` David Miller, Eric Dumazet
2008-03-21 17:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-22 18:40 ` [00/14] Virtual Compound Page Support V3 Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-24 18:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-03-24 19:29 ` Christoph Lameter
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