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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>
Cc: carsteno@de.ibm.com, npiggin@suse.de,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	mschwid2@linux.vnet.ibm.com, heicars2@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 4/6] xip: support non-struct page backed memory
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:04:37 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0803031152240.17889@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6934efce0803031138g725f0ec4ra683d56615b7dbe0@mail.gmail.com>


On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Jared Hulbert wrote:
> 
> By 1:1 you mean virtual + offset == physical + offset right?

Right. It's a special case, and it's an important special case because 
it's the only one that is fast to do.

It's not very common, but it's common enough that it's worth doing.

That said, xip should probably never have used virt_to_phys() in the first 
place. It should be limited to purely architecture-specific memory 
management routines.

[ There's a number of drivers that need "physical" addresses for DMA, and 
  that use virt_to_phys, but they should use the DMA interfaces 
  that do this right, and even for legacy things that don't use the proper 
  DMA allocator things virt_to_phys is wrong, because it's about _bus_ 
  addresses, not CPU physical addresses. Only architecture code can know 
  when the two actually mean the same thing ]

Quite frankly, I think it's totally wrong to use kernel-virtual addresses 
in those interfaces in first place. Either you use "struct page *" or you 
use a pfn number. Nothing else is simply valid.

			Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-03 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080118045649.334391000@suse.de>
2008-01-18  4:56 ` [patch 1/6] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP npiggin, Jared Hulbert
2008-01-18  4:56 ` [patch 2/6] mm: introduce pte_special pte bit npiggin
2008-01-18 16:41   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 18:04     ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-18 18:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 18:53         ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-18 22:46     ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-18 23:03       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-19  5:07         ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-21  9:43       ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-18  4:56 ` [patch 3/6] mm: add vm_insert_mixed npiggin
2008-01-18  4:56 ` [patch 4/6] xip: support non-struct page backed memory npiggin
2008-03-01  8:14   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-03-03  5:29     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03  8:30       ` Carsten Otte
2008-03-03 15:59       ` Jared Hulbert
2008-03-03  8:18     ` Carsten Otte
2008-03-03 15:44       ` Jared Hulbert
2008-03-03 18:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-03 19:38         ` Jared Hulbert
2008-03-03 20:04           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-03-03 20:32             ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 22:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-03 23:25                 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-03-04  9:06                 ` Carsten Otte

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