From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>,
Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/6] mm: introduce pte_special pte bit
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:03:03 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801181448280.2957@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080118224622.GA11563@wotan.suse.de>
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
> I thought in your last mail on the subject, that you had conceded the
> vma-based scheme should stay, so I might have misunderstood that to mean
> you would, reluctantly, go with the scheme. I guess I need to try a bit
> harder ;)
Yes, I did concede that apparently we cannot just mandate "let's just use
a bit in the pte".
So I do agree that we seem to be forced to have two different
implementations: one for architectures where we can make use of a marker
on the PTE itself (or perhaps some *other* way to distinguish things
automatically), and one for the ones where we need to just be able
to distinguish purely based on our own data structures.
I just then didn't like the lack of abstraction.
> How about taking a different approach. How about also having a pte_normal()
> function.
Well, one reason I'd prefer not to, is that I can well imagine an
architecture that doesn't actually put the "normal" bit in the PTE itself,
but in a separate data structure.
In particular, let's say that you decide that
- the architecture really doesn't have any space in the hw page tables
- but for various reasons you *really* don't want to use the tricky
"page->offset" logic etc
- ..and you realize that PFNMAP and FIXMAP are actually very rare
so..
- you just associate each PFNMAP/FIXMAP vma with a simple bitmap that
contains the "special" bit.
It's actually not that hard to do. If you have an architecture-specific
interface like
struct page *vm_normal_page(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long addr, pte_t pte);
then it wouldn't be too hard at all to create a hash lookup on the VMA (or
perhaps on a "vma, 256-page-aligned(addr)" tuple) to look up a bitmap, and
then use the address to see if it was marked special or not.
But yes, then you'd also need to have that extended
set_special_pte_at(vma, addr, pfn, prot);
interface to set that bit in that bitmap.
See?
Is it better than what we already have for the generic case? Possibly not.
But I like abstractions that aren't tied to *one* particular
implementation.
Linus
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2008-01-18 4:56 ` [patch 1/6] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP npiggin, Jared Hulbert
2008-01-18 4:56 ` [patch 2/6] mm: introduce pte_special pte bit npiggin
2008-01-18 16:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 18:04 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-18 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 18:53 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-01-18 22:46 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-18 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-01-19 5:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-21 9:43 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-18 4:56 ` [patch 3/6] mm: add vm_insert_mixed npiggin
2008-01-18 4:56 ` [patch 4/6] xip: support non-struct page backed memory npiggin
2008-03-01 8:14 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-03-03 5:29 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 8:30 ` Carsten Otte
2008-03-03 15:59 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-03-03 8:18 ` Carsten Otte
2008-03-03 15:44 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-03-03 18:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-03 19:38 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-03-03 20:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-03 20:32 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-03 23:25 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-03-04 9:06 ` Carsten Otte
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