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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:04:29 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0710100758460.3838@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200710100030.28806.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>


On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
> It just seems like now might be a good time to just _try_ removing
> the zero page

Yes. Let's do your patch immediately after the x86 merge, and just see if 
anybody screams. 

It might take a while, because I certainly agree that whoever would be 
affected by it is likely to be unusual.

> OK, maybe this is where we are not on the same page.
> There are 2 issues really. Firstly, performance problem of
> refcounting the zero-page -- we've established that it causes
> this livelock and that we should stop refcounting it, right?

Yes, I do agree that refcounting is problematic. 

> Second issue is the performance difference between removing the
> zero page completely, and de-refcounting it (it's obviously
> incorrect to argue for zero page removal for performance reasons
> if the performance improvement is simply coming from avoiding
> the refcounting).

Well, even if it's a "when you don't get into the bad behaviour, 
performance difference is not measurable", and give a before-and-after 
number for some random but interesting load. Even if it's just a kernel 
compile..

		Linus

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      reply	other threads:[~2007-10-10 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20071001142222.fcaa8d57.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2007-10-02  4:21 ` Memory controller merge " Balbir Singh
2007-10-02 15:46   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-03  8:13     ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-03 18:47       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-04  4:16         ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-04 13:16           ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-05  3:07             ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-07 17:41               ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-08  2:54                 ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-04 16:10     ` Paul Menage
2007-10-10 21:07   ` Rik van Riel
2007-10-11  6:33     ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-02 16:06 ` kswapd min order, slub max order [was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24] Hugh Dickins
2007-10-02  9:10   ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-02 18:38   ` Mel Gorman
2007-10-02 18:28     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-03  0:37       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 16:21 ` new aops merge " Hugh Dickins
2007-10-02 17:45 ` remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24) Nick Piggin
2007-10-03 10:58   ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-03 15:21   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-08 15:17     ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-09 13:00       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-09 14:52       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-09  9:31         ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-10  2:22           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-09 10:15             ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-10  3:06               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-10  4:06               ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-10  5:20                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-09 14:30                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-10 15:04                     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]

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