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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] remove ZERO_PAGE?
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:56:54 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0707292049420.4161@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0707292026190.4161@woody.linux-foundation.org>


On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> I'd love to hear "here's a real-life load, and yes, the ZERO_PAGE logic 
> really does hurt more than it helps, it's time to remove it". At that 
> point I'll happily apply the patch.

Btw, in the absense of that, I'd at least like to hear an acknowledgement 
that the complexity isn't worth it, and that what used to work fine was 
broken because the reference counting overhead gets us on large-scale 
machines.

IOW, I certainly like removing lines of code. In that sense I _love_ that 
patch. I really just react negatively because I really think you first set 
ZERO_PAGE up to fail.

So even if you cannot find a load where this all matters, at least point 
to commit b5810039a54e5babf428e9a1e89fc1940fabff11 (or exactly whichever 
one it was that started ref-counting ZERO_PAGE) and blame *that* one, 
rather than blaming ZERO_PAGE for the problem.

It has served us well for fifteen years, we shouldn't blame it for 
problems that came from elsewhere.

			Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-30  3:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-27  2:19 Nick Piggin
2007-07-27  5:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-27  5:54   ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-27 15:21     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-30  3:08       ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-30  3:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-30  3:56           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-07-30  4:35             ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-30  4:30           ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-27 15:59 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-07-30 13:52 ` Luiz Fernando N. Capitulino
2007-07-30 18:57   ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-30 22:39     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-07-30 23:09       ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-31  0:03         ` Luiz Fernando N. Capitulino
2007-08-01  1:47       ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-01  1:53         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-01  2:19           ` Luiz Fernando N. Capitulino
2007-08-01  3:03             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-02  4:37             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-03  1:40               ` Neil Brown
2007-08-01  2:17         ` Luiz Fernando N. Capitulino

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