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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	guro@fb.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaperunmap
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:07:52 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1804241359280.186801@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180424203148.GW17484@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Tue, 24 Apr 2018, Michal Hocko wrote:

> > > > My patch has passed intensive testing on both x86 and powerpc, so I'll ask 
> > > > that it's pushed for 4.17-rc3.  Many thanks to Tetsuo for the suggestion 
> > > > on calling __oom_reap_task_mm() from exit_mmap().
> > > 
> > > Yeah, but your patch does have a problem with blockable mmu notifiers
> > > IIUC.
> > 
> > What on earth are you talking about?  exit_mmap() does 
> > mmu_notifier_release().  There are no blockable mmu notifiers.
> 
> MMF_OOM_SKIP - remember? The thing that guarantees a forward progress.
> So we cannot really depend on setting MMF_OOM_SKIP if a
> mmu_notifier_release blocks for an excessive/unbounded amount of time.
> 

If the thread is blocked in exit_mmap() because of mmu_notifier_release() 
then the oom reaper will eventually grab mm->mmap_sem (nothing holding it 
in exit_mmap()), return true, and oom_reap_task() will set MMF_OOM_SKIP.  
This is unchanged with the patch and is a completely separate issue.

> Look I am not really interested in disussing this to death but it would
> be really _nice_ if you could calm down a bit, stop fighting for the solution
> you have proposed and ignore the feedback you are getting.
> 

I assume we should spend more time considering the two untested patches 
you have sent, one of which killed 17 processes while a 8GB memory hog was 
exiting because the oom reaper couldn't grab mm->mmap_sem and set 
MMF_OOM_SKIP.

> There are two things to care about here. Stop the race that can blow up
> and do not regress MMF_OOM_SKIP guarantee. Can we please do that.

My patch does both.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-24 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17 22:46 [patch] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap David Rientjes
2018-04-18  0:57 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18  2:39   ` David Rientjes
2018-04-18  2:52     ` [patch v2] " David Rientjes
2018-04-18  3:55       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18  4:11         ` David Rientjes
2018-04-18  4:47           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18  5:20             ` David Rientjes
2018-04-18  7:50       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-18 11:49         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 11:58           ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-18 13:25             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 13:44               ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-18 14:28                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-18 19:14         ` David Rientjes
2018-04-19  6:35           ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-19 10:45             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-19 11:04               ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-19 11:51                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-19 12:48                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-19 19:14               ` David Rientjes
2018-04-19 19:34             ` David Rientjes
2018-04-19 22:13               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-20  8:23               ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-20 12:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-22  3:22                   ` David Rientjes
2018-04-22  3:48                     ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaperunmap Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-22 13:08                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24  2:31                       ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24  5:11                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-24  5:35                           ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 21:57                             ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap Tetsuo Handa
2018-04-24 22:25                               ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 22:34                                 ` [patch v3 for-4.17] " David Rientjes
2018-04-24 23:19                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 13:04                         ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaperunmap Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 20:01                           ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 20:13                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 20:22                               ` David Rientjes
2018-04-24 20:31                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 21:07                                   ` David Rientjes [this message]
2018-04-24 23:08                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 23:14                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-22  3:45                 ` [patch v2] mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap David Rientjes
2018-04-22 13:18                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-23 16:09                     ` Michal Hocko

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