From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] mm, thp: do not cause memcg oom for thp
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 14:27:10 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1803211422510.107059@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180321204921.GP23100@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > That doesn't make sense, the allocation path needs to allocate contiguous
> > memory for the high order, the charging path just needs to charge a number
> > of pages. Why would the allocation and charging path be compatible when
> > one needs to reclaim contiguous memory or compact memory and the the other
> > just needs to reclaim any memory?
>
> Because you do not want to see surprises. E.g. seeing unexpected OOMs
> for large allocatations. Just think about it. Do you really want to have
> a different reclaim policy for the allocation and charging for all
> allocating paths?
It depends on the use of __GFP_NORETRY. If the high-order charge is
__GFP_NORETRY, it does not oom kill. It is left to the caller. Just
because thp allocations have been special cased in the page allocator to
be able to remove __GFP_NORETRY without fixing the memcg charge path does
not mean memcg needs a special heuristic for high-order memory when it
does not require contiguous memory. You say you don't want any surprises,
but now you are changing behavior needlessly for all charges with
order > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER that do not use __GFP_NORETRY.
> You are right that the allocation path involves compaction and that is
> different from the charging path. But that is an implementation detail
> of the current implementation.
>
Lol, the fact that the page allocator requires contiguous memory is not an
implementation detail of the current implementation.
> Your patch only fixes up the current situation. Anytime a new THP
> allocation emerges that code path has to be careful to add
> __GFP_NORETRY to not regress again. That is just too error prone.
>
We could certainly handle it by adding helpers similar to
alloc_hugepage_direct_gfpmask() and alloc_hugepage_khugepaged_gfpmask()
which are employed for the same purpose for the page allocator gfp mask.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-21 21:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-19 21:10 David Rientjes
2018-03-20 7:16 ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-20 20:25 ` David Rientjes
2018-03-21 8:22 ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-21 19:37 ` David Rientjes
2018-03-21 20:53 ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-21 21:27 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2018-03-22 8:11 ` Michal Hocko
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