From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirsky <luto@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bpetkov@suse.de>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
Eduardo Valentin <eduval@amazon.com>,
"Liguori, Anthony" <aliguori@amazon.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 13/16] x86/ldt: Introduce LDT write fault handler
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:46:07 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1712122244221.2289@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1712122219580.2289@nanos>
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Dec 2017, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/12/2017 11:21 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > > The only critical interaction is the return to user path (user CS/SS) and
> > > > we made sure with the LAR touching that these are precached in the CPU
> > > > before we go into fragile exit code.
> > >
> > > How do we make sure that it _stays_ cached?
> > >
> > > Surely there is weird stuff like WBINVD or SMI's that can come at very
> > > inconvenient times and wipe it out of the cache.
> >
> > This does not look like cache in the sense of memory cache. It seems to be
> > CPU internal state and I just stuffed WBINVD and alternatively CLFLUSH'ed
> > the entries after the 'touch' via LAR. Still works.
>
> Dave pointed me once more to the following paragraph in the SDM, which
> Peter and I looked at before and we tried that w/o success:
>
> If the segment descriptors in the GDT or an LDT are placed in ROM, the
> processor can enter an indefinite loop if software or the processor
> attempts to update (write to) the ROM-based segment descriptors. To
> prevent this problem, set the accessed bits for all segment descriptors
> placed in a ROM. Also, remove operating-system or executive code that
> attempts to modify segment descriptors located in ROM.
>
> Now that made me go back to the state of the patch series which made us
> make that magic 'touch' and write fault handler. The difference to the code
> today is that it did not prepopulate the user visible mapping.
>
> We added that later because we were worried about not being able to
> populate it in the #PF due to memory pressure without ripping out the magic
> cure again.
>
> But I did now and actually removing both the user exit magic 'touch' code
> and the write fault handler keeps it working.
>
> Removing the prepopulate code makes it break again with a #GP in
> IRET/SYSRET.
>
> What happens there is that the IRET pops SS (with a minimal testcase) which
> causes the #PF. That populates the PTE and returns happily. Right after
> that the #GP comes in with IP pointing to the user space instruction right
> after the syscall.
>
> That simplifies and descaryfies that code massively.
>
> Darn, I should have gone back and check every part again as I usually do,
> but my fried brain failed.
The magic write ACCESS bit handler is a left over from the early attempts
not to force ACCESS=1 when setting up the descriptor entry.
Bah. My patch stack history proves where the 3 cross roads are where I took
the wrong turn.
Thanks,
tglx
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-12 17:32 [patch 00/16] x86/ldt: Use a VMA based read only mapping Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 01/16] arch: Allow arch_dup_mmap() to fail Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 02/16] x86/ldt: Rework locking Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 03/16] x86/ldt: Prevent ldt inheritance on exec Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 04/16] mm/softdirty: Move VM_SOFTDIRTY into high bits Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 05/16] mm: Allow special mappings with user access cleared Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 18:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 18:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 12:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 12:57 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-12-13 14:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 14:43 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-12-13 15:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 15:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 15:14 ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-13 15:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 15:47 ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-13 15:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-13 18:21 ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-13 18:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-13 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-13 18:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 18:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-14 4:53 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-12-13 21:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-13 22:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-14 0:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-14 0:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 06/16] mm: Provide vm_special_mapping::close Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 07/16] selftest/x86: Implement additional LDT selftests Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 08/16] selftests/x86/ldt_gdt: Prepare for access bit forced Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 09/16] mm: Make populate_vma_page_range() available Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 10/16] x86/ldt: Do not install LDT for kernel threads Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 11/16] x86/ldt: Force access bit for CS/SS Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 18:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 18:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 18:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 19:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-12 19:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-19 12:10 ` David Laight
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 12/16] x86/ldt: Reshuffle code Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 13/16] x86/ldt: Introduce LDT write fault handler Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 18:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-12 19:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 19:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-12 20:21 ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-12 20:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 21:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 21:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 21:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 21:46 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-12-12 22:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 14/16] x86/ldt: Prepare for VMA mapping Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 15/16] x86/ldt: Add VMA management code Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 16/16] x86/ldt: Make it read only VMA mapped Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 18:03 ` [patch 00/16] x86/ldt: Use a VMA based read only mapping Andy Lutomirski
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