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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirsky <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bpetkov@suse.de>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Eduardo Valentin <eduval@amazon.com>,
	"Liguori, Anthony" <aliguori@amazon.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 13/16] x86/ldt: Introduce LDT write fault handler
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:46:07 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1712122244221.2289@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1712122219580.2289@nanos>

On Tue, 12 Dec 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Dec 2017, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > 
> > > On 12/12/2017 11:21 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > > The only critical interaction is the return to user path (user CS/SS) and
> > > > we made sure with the LAR touching that these are precached in the CPU
> > > > before we go into fragile exit code.
> > > 
> > > How do we make sure that it _stays_ cached?
> > > 
> > > Surely there is weird stuff like WBINVD or SMI's that can come at very
> > > inconvenient times and wipe it out of the cache.
> > 
> > This does not look like cache in the sense of memory cache. It seems to be
> > CPU internal state and I just stuffed WBINVD and alternatively CLFLUSH'ed
> > the entries after the 'touch' via LAR. Still works.
> 
> Dave pointed me once more to the following paragraph in the SDM, which
> Peter and I looked at before and we tried that w/o success:
> 
>     If the segment descriptors in the GDT or an LDT are placed in ROM, the
>     processor can enter an indefinite loop if software or the processor
>     attempts to update (write to) the ROM-based segment descriptors. To
>     prevent this problem, set the accessed bits for all segment descriptors
>     placed in a ROM. Also, remove operating-system or executive code that
>     attempts to modify segment descriptors located in ROM.
> 
> Now that made me go back to the state of the patch series which made us
> make that magic 'touch' and write fault handler. The difference to the code
> today is that it did not prepopulate the user visible mapping.
> 
> We added that later because we were worried about not being able to
> populate it in the #PF due to memory pressure without ripping out the magic
> cure again.
> 
> But I did now and actually removing both the user exit magic 'touch' code
> and the write fault handler keeps it working.
> 
> Removing the prepopulate code makes it break again with a #GP in
> IRET/SYSRET.
> 
> What happens there is that the IRET pops SS (with a minimal testcase) which
> causes the #PF. That populates the PTE and returns happily. Right after
> that the #GP comes in with IP pointing to the user space instruction right
> after the syscall.
> 
> That simplifies and descaryfies that code massively.
> 
> Darn, I should have gone back and check every part again as I usually do,
> but my fried brain failed.

The magic write ACCESS bit handler is a left over from the early attempts
not to force ACCESS=1 when setting up the descriptor entry.

Bah. My patch stack history proves where the 3 cross roads are where I took
the wrong turn.

Thanks,

	tglx

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-12 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-12 17:32 [patch 00/16] x86/ldt: Use a VMA based read only mapping Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 01/16] arch: Allow arch_dup_mmap() to fail Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 02/16] x86/ldt: Rework locking Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 03/16] x86/ldt: Prevent ldt inheritance on exec Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 04/16] mm/softdirty: Move VM_SOFTDIRTY into high bits Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 05/16] mm: Allow special mappings with user access cleared Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 18:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 18:06       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 12:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 12:57       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-12-13 14:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 14:43           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-12-13 15:00             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 15:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 15:14         ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-13 15:32           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 15:47             ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-13 15:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 18:08                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-13 18:21                   ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-13 18:23                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-13 18:31                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-13 18:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 18:35                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-14  4:53                   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-12-13 21:50   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-13 22:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-14  0:10       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-12-14  0:16         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 06/16] mm: Provide vm_special_mapping::close Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 07/16] selftest/x86: Implement additional LDT selftests Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 08/16] selftests/x86/ldt_gdt: Prepare for access bit forced Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 09/16] mm: Make populate_vma_page_range() available Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 10/16] x86/ldt: Do not install LDT for kernel threads Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:57   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 11/16] x86/ldt: Force access bit for CS/SS Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 18:03   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 18:10       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:22         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:29           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 18:41             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 19:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 19:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-12 19:26     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-19 12:10       ` David Laight
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 12/16] x86/ldt: Reshuffle code Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 13/16] x86/ldt: Introduce LDT write fault handler Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:58   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 18:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 18:43       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 19:01   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-12 19:21     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 19:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-12-12 20:21       ` Dave Hansen
2017-12-12 20:37         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 21:35           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-12 21:42             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 21:41           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 21:46             ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-12-12 22:25             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 14/16] x86/ldt: Prepare for VMA mapping Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 15/16] x86/ldt: Add VMA management code Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 17:32 ` [patch 16/16] x86/ldt: Make it read only VMA mapped Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-12 18:03 ` [patch 00/16] x86/ldt: Use a VMA based read only mapping Andy Lutomirski

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