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From: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/6] mm, page_alloc: fix more premature OOM due to race with cpuset update
Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 10:25:09 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1705171021570.9487@east.gentwo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170517145645.GO18247@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, 17 May 2017, Michal Hocko wrote:

> > If you have screwy things like static mbinds in there then you are
> > hopelessly lost anyways. You may have moved the process to another set
> > of nodes but the static bindings may refer to a node no longer
> > available. Thus the OOM is legitimate.
>
> The point is that you do _not_ want such a process to trigger the OOM
> because it can cause other processes being killed.

Nope. The OOM in a cpuset gets the process doing the alloc killed. Or what
that changed?

At this point you have messed up royally and nothing is going to rescue
you anyways. OOM or not does not matter anymore. The app will fail.

> > At least a user space app could inspect
> > the situation and come up with custom ways of dealing with the mess.
>
> I do not really see how would this help to prevent a malicious user from
> playing tricks.

How did a malicious user come into this? Of course you can mess up in
significant ways if you can overflow nodes and cause an app that has
restrictions to fail but nothing is going to change that.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-17 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-11 14:06 [RFC 0/6] cpuset/mempolicies related fixes and cleanups Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 1/6] mm, page_alloc: fix more premature OOM due to race with cpuset update Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 17:24   ` Christoph Lameter
2017-04-11 19:00     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-12 21:25       ` Christoph Lameter
2017-04-13  6:24         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-14 20:37           ` Christoph Lameter
2017-04-26  8:07             ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-30 21:33               ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-17  9:20                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-17 13:56                   ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-17 14:05                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-17 14:48                       ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-17 14:56                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-17 15:25                           ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2017-05-18  9:08                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-18 16:57                               ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-18 17:24                                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-18 19:07                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-19  7:37                                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-17 15:27                           ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-18 10:03                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-05-18 17:07                           ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-19 11:27                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-13  5:42   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-04-13  6:06     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-13  6:07       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 2/6] mm, mempolicy: stop adjusting current->il_next in mpol_rebind_nodemask() Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 17:32   ` Christoph Lameter
2017-04-11 19:03     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-12  8:49       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-12 21:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2017-04-12 21:18           ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 3/6] mm, page_alloc: pass preferred nid instead of zonelist to allocator Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 4/6] mm, mempolicy: simplify rebinding mempolicies when updating cpusets Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 5/6] mm, cpuset: always use seqlock when changing task's nodemask Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-12  8:10   ` Hillf Danton
2017-04-12  8:18     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 6/6] mm, mempolicy: don't check cpuset seqlock where it doesn't matter Vlastimil Babka

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