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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: mm: deadlock between get_online_cpus/pcpu_alloc
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:12:46 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1702091708270.3604@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1702090940190.23960@east.gentwo.org>

On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> 
> > > The stop_machine would need to ensure that all cpus cease processing
> > > before proceeding.
> >
> > Ok. I try again:
> >
> > CPU 0	     	  	    CPU 1
> > for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
> >   ==> cpu = 1
> >  			    stop_machine()
> >
> > Stops processing on all CPUs by preempting the current execution and
> > forcing them into a high priority busy loop with interrupts disabled.
> 
> Exactly that means we are outside of the sections marked with
> get_online_cpous().
> 
> > It does exactly what you describe. It stops processing on all other cpus
> > until release, but that does not invalidate any data on those cpus.
> 
> Why would it need to invalidate any data? The change of the cpu masks
> would need to be done when the machine is stopped. This sounds exactly
> like what we need and much of it is already there.

You are just not getting it, really.

The problem is that this for_each_online_cpu() is racy against a concurrent
hot unplug and therefor can queue stuff for a not longer online cpu. That's
what the mm folks tried to avoid by preventing a CPU hotplug operation
before entering that loop.

> Lets get rid of get_online_cpus() etc.

And that solves what?

Can you please start to understand the scope of the whole hotplug machinery
including the requirements for get_online_cpus() before you waste
everybodys time with your uninformed and halfbaken proposals?

Thanks,

	tglx

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-09 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-29 12:44 Dmitry Vyukov
2017-01-29 17:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-30 15:48   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-02-06 19:13     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-02-06 22:05       ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-07  8:48         ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07  9:23           ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-07  9:46             ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-07  9:53             ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 10:42             ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-07 11:13               ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-07  9:43           ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-07  9:49             ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-07 10:05               ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 10:28               ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-07 10:35                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 11:34                   ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-07 11:43                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 11:54                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-07 12:08                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 12:37                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 12:43                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-07 12:48                           ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 13:57                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-02-07 13:58                         ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-07 14:19                           ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 15:34                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 16:22                               ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-07 16:41                                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 16:55                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2017-02-07 22:25                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-08  7:35                                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-08 12:02                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-08 12:21                                           ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-08 12:26                                           ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-08 13:23                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-08 14:03                                               ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-08 14:11                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-08 15:11                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2017-02-08 15:21                                           ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-08 16:17                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2017-02-08 17:46                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-09  3:15                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-02-09 11:42                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-09 14:00                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2017-02-09 14:53                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-09 15:42                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2017-02-09 16:12                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-02-09 17:22                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2017-02-09 17:40                                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-02-09 19:15                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-10 17:58                                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-02-08 15:06                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2017-02-07 17:03                               ` Tejun Heo
2017-02-07 20:16                                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 13:03                       ` Mel Gorman
2017-02-07 13:48                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 11:24         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-02-07  8:43       ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-07 21:53       ` Thomas Gleixner

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